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:::::::So you mean just calling the type of object you see at the start of The Forest of Hope a "gate", while all the other types of objects get different names, like "electric gate", "dirt gate", etc.? I see what you mean, but that sounds pretty wrong... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:14, August 24, 2022 (EDT)
:::::::So you mean just calling the type of object you see at the start of The Forest of Hope a "gate", while all the other types of objects get different names, like "electric gate", "dirt gate", etc.? I see what you mean, but that sounds pretty wrong... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:14, August 24, 2022 (EDT)
::::::::A few months have passed, and now I'm thinking that we shouldn't rename this gate at all. At this point, the name "bramble gate" has become established as ''the'' name for this type of gate in the ''Pikmin'' community, despite the fact that it doesn't accurately describe the obstacle. If we renamed it to something else on the wiki, it would probably confuse people, since people know this obstacle as the bramble gate. For this reason, I don't think we should rename it unless a future game introduces an official name. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:43, February 28, 2023 (EST)
::::::::A few months have passed, and now I'm thinking that we shouldn't rename this gate at all. At this point, the name "bramble gate" has become established as ''the'' name for this type of gate in the ''Pikmin'' community, despite the fact that it doesn't accurately describe the obstacle. If we renamed it to something else on the wiki, it would probably confuse people, since people know this obstacle as the bramble gate. For this reason, I don't think we should rename it unless a future game introduces an official name. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:43, February 28, 2023 (EST)
::::Now that ''Pikmin 4'' has come out and introduced several new types of gates, that presents an even better case for splitting the article, since there are now just too many topics here to cover on one page. I'll split the article soon unless anyone presents a good reason not to. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 02:08, August 28, 2023 (EDT)


== Bramble Gate --> Wooden Gate? ==
== Bramble Gate --> Wooden Gate? ==
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The official Nintendo Power Player's Guide for {{p1}} consistently refers to bramble gates as "wooden gates". Seeing as Nintendo Power is (was?) an official Nintendo publication, this can easily be seen as an "official" name. Plus, it also just makes sense visually.
The official Nintendo Power Player's Guide for {{p1}} consistently refers to bramble gates as "wooden gates". Seeing as Nintendo Power is (was?) an official Nintendo publication, this can easily be seen as an "official" name. Plus, it also just makes sense visually.


On a similar note, they refer to stone gates as "rock gates", but since we have an official in-game name as of {{p3}} (reinforced walls), the name "rock gate" should just stay as an alternate name like "rock gate". &mdash; '''KamekSans'''
On a similar note, they refer to stone gates as "rock gates", but since we have an official in-game name as of {{p3}} (reinforced walls), the name "rock gate" should just stay as an alternate name like "stone gate". &mdash; '''KamekSans'''
:That seems kinda arbitrary. To consider the "wooden gate" and "dirt gate" different things, but the "rock gate" and "reinforced wall" the same thing. In both cases the material the gate is made of is different: wood and dirt, rock and reinforced concrete. I'd say either both are redesigns or both are replacements. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 11:45, September 9, 2023 (EDT)