Talk:Bulbmin

Orange or green?
I am still not convinced the Pikmin inside the Bulborb is orange, the motion blur the throwing cursor etc surely are all orange because of the Bulborbs orange body. The stem also seems to be part of the bulborbs body which the Pikmin has stretched over itself, the only part of the Pikmin exposed to the environment is its leaf which it needs to photosynthesis or whatever Pikmin do with it. Discordance 10:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I always remember that the trail they leave when thrown was green.Pikdude 21:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The trail and cursor are orange, but the leaf-glow and blip on the radar (I think?) are green. Personally, I think if you were to dissect a Bulbmin, you'd find nothing but a sinewy bundle of root-nerves tangled around inside the poor host. Really, what use is skin if you spend your entire life attached to the nervous system of another animal? Albeit, most endoparasites still have a shell or skin, but they live inside their hosts, not as part of it.

Actually, I really do think the Pikmin inside it is green, and to explain the cursor and the streak when thown, yellows leave a yellow train, reds leave a red, and their streak is the same color as their skin, the cursor also changes to match the pikmin color, bulbmin are orange on the outside, why, if a white spot was right where the pikmin stem was, people would argure that the pikmin is white. And idle pikmin always release a color that they are, the radar shows what color the pikmin are, except for burried pikmin (which also show green).Learner 18:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

if you really think about it the leaf is green soo it would show green, and the bulborb is orange soo it would show orange soo it could be an entirely different color besides orange/green.


 * But then why would red pikmin glow red if they have a green leaf, hm? Also, Jimbo's comment seems kinda morbid to me. ferailo9 00:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just trying to be realistic...but I guess I can see what you mean.
 * I think that looking at real plant parasites bulbmin are just root systems and don't actuly have bodys or much color for that matter and green and orange were used becuse nintendo didn't have much else to use. Shockywatt 16:02, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is a reason, but I do not know it. Ask Nintendo. Pik dude 200px-Mario you phail.gif 19:59, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think the Parasite is white with orange limbs (one of which could be the stem).--Itsa me! Louie G. 21:36, 6 June 2012 (EDT)

How to defeat with Pikmin
Hey, I don't understand why was the tutorial on how to kill Bulbmin with Pikmin removed... Please inform me. SpeedyTheSonicChao 16:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

How to kill: Like a normal Bulborb. (There are many ways to do this, they can be found here.) Warning: useing Bulbmin will not raise your chances, nor will it make the Parent Bulbmin stop from eating yours.Pikdude 21:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Separate sections
Should we perhaps split this article into two pages, one for the enemy and one for the controllable Pikmin, or is there little enough information to be able to just separate it by sections? The thing is that we have separate templates for Pikmin and enemies, as well as separate categories, and the name Bulbmin kind of refers to both. At very least the information should be separated, but I'm wondering if separate pages is too much.


 * Well, what would you call the other page then? Seperating in sections may look malapropos... Oh, and I think we should just stay with "strong" on the Purples page. They only do additional damage when throw, but not when swarmed.--


 * Are you sure about the Purples? I thought they were stronger, even when they don't land. I'll test it today. And about this article, I think that we should keep it at one, but just make it clear that this refers to two things. We need the enemy infobox and footer on here too.

Alright, I guess this is fine. There's a small problem though. Since it's part of the "Pikmin" family, the Enemy Infobox is trying to categorize it as "Pikmins"...


 * "Bulbmin" does not refer to the Bulborb (hence it has its own page, and the parasite can host in other species aswell), but to the parasite. If it belongs to the genus Pikminicus, then that's fine.--


 * It's not that. The word "Pikmins" is kind of an improper pluralization of "Pikmin." The template is designed to take the name of the family, add an S onto the end of it, and categorize it. Because Bulbmin are in the Pikmin family, it gets put under the category Pikmins, even though it's already in the Pikmin (species) category.


 * Ahhh... That was a little hard to understand, you'd have to admit. Category:Pikmins, hm? As I assumed, a redirect has no effect. Should we just code a custom box?--


 * It's okay, I'll just code it into the infobox, making a special case for it. I'll also put those with family: Unknown in Category:Creatures with no known family.


 * Done. That was kind of funny, though. "Category:Pikmins"...


 * I don't think it likes what you're trying to do. It just says  [[Category: ]]  on pages that have the template.


 * Are you sure? Bulbmin's in Category:Pikmin, Armored Cannon Beetle's in Category:Lithopods, Goolix is in Category:Creatures with no know family. It seems fine.


 * Ok, now it's working properly everywhere. No idea why there was a problem before.


 * Er...Cannon Beetle is working, but Goolix isn't, and Bulbmin is still categorized as Pikmin (species) and Pikmins. Is it really working for you?

I think it's trying to confuse me... It was working, but it takes a while for changes made in templates to categorisation to actually happen, so it's hard to follow what's actually going on. I'll try again...

I think hope that's it now.


 * Looks like it. We'll just said and see, I guess. By the way, should I move Category: Pikmin (species) to Category: Pikmin Family? Or maybe Pikmin species, since Category: Pikmin is already being used.


 * You couldn't log in, and I couldn't edit! It just kept on saying that I had a loss of session data no matter what I did! Gah, anyway, I'd be for Pikmin species. Also, wouldn't it have been simpler to remove the "s" from the template so you'd just add it manually?--


 * Not really, as you'd then have to change each page if you wanted to change the category; as it is, we can change the categorisation of every single Piklopedia enemy/plant by editing just the template. I'd say Pikmin species too; I'll alter the templates.

I don't even remember if this is what I had in mind when we discussed this before, but either way, the more I look at it, the "As Pikmin" and "As enemies" sections seem...pretty useless, especially considering that the "As enemies" section contains nothing but the notes, strategies, and that part about their discovery which has absolutely nothing to do with them as enemies at all. Personally, I think it was fine before with the information put together like that (like before this edit, no offense Green).


 * Revisiting.


 * I dsagree. It should stay seperate, in order to give easier access to what you're looking for, and so that it has more organization.--


 * They were separate, but now it's separated into a bulk of the useful information, and the notes plus some information that has nothing to do with the section it's under.


 * Blame this guy for that random bit. I think it's better as it is, so people don't read about them as Pikmin, then see Louie talking about cooking them, and a section about how to defeat them... How would you suggest it be organised instead?

It seems to me that Jimbo isn't against the current organization, just the lack of organization within the organization. ...I think.ChozoBoy 15:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the way it was orginized before had the first paragraph as an introduction/general overview, plus a little bit about how to defeat them, the second paragraph told what happened after they were defeated and explained their use as Pikmin, and the third one was just about the color debate. Green, I understand what you're saying about reading about them as Pikmin and them about how to cook them immediately after, but I don't think it would be read that way - at least, I didn't. I would think the notes would be treated as a whole different section by the reader, like "Okay, that explained everything about Bulbmin, and now I'm moving onto the notes I can get in the game." Maybe that's just how I would read it since I'm familiar with the notes section.... I dunno. Either way though, the notes don't just apply to the adults, even though the adults are the only ones considered enemies, but to the Bulbmin species in general, so I don't think it would fit under the "As enemies" section.

I was sort of supriesed when I found out that this article recommends the use of sprays and purple pikmin on mature bulbmin. I've always just thrown pikmin at them and I've never really had any trouble.--Pikiwizard 01:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed up the article. Also, please have a link to your user page and user talk page in your sig. 14:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ghost?
Do Bulbmin leave ghosts? ~Crystal  Lucario~  21:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. 11:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * So what ever color that is is probably the color of Pikmin inside?  ~Crystal [[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]] Lucario~  11:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No, because we can see that it's based on the ghost of the Bulborb body, not the Pikmin, as the colour is the same as every other beast's. 11:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It's also the same shape as a beast's ghost. ferailo9 00:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * * COUGH* Late much?! *Cough*  ~Crystal [[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]] Lucario~  11:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

vote
i know it is a bit late, but i think we should take a vote, for the wikis sake, on what the internal color of the bulbmins pikmin form is. i vote green.


 * I feel like a real asshole saying this, but we really can't. I mean, we could all throw our opinions in, but we can't just make a group decision on something we don't, can't, and probably never will actually know.

fine... i just wanted a desision, becausei dont have any better ideas.

Jimbo's right, the article is cool as is. Who are we to decide a color? Our job is to present the facts, and I think the editors of the article have done an amazing job at presenting every detail for both colors of this animal. ChozoBoy 20:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Errr... Couldn't have said it better new guy... I'm  ~Crystal [[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]] Lucario~  And I approve this message.

Most likely the Orange and Green colors are meant to represent immunities. As Green and Orange are combinations of all other colors. Red-Yellow-Blue=Orange/Green. As for Poison... Well, that might not affect non pikmin enemies anyway. :D 174.42.206.150 20:34, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Why do we need to vote? You are free to have your own opinion. If you think Bulbmin are Orange, fine. if you think they are green, thats good. --Loafy the Breadbug 10:01, 25 September 2010 (EDT)

You can keep thinking which one it is, Green or Orange, until Nintendo confirm what colour it is. We should not mention colour at all. If we vote for a colour and claim it is that colour on the article what would happen if Nintendo confirmed it as a different colour! as Chozo says we should represent fact not fiction Loafy the Breadbug

nominate
can some1 nominate this as a featured article for me (wiki443556 19:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)) don't no how...

Actually, it's already bee nominated. You can see it and vote for it here.

Featured
Yaaaay, Bulbmin got featured! Bulbmin are awesome!  AF RO MAN  22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Woo...

Concept art
I think the page needs concept art. I like concept art.  AF RO MAN  16:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

You have some? Rocky




 * Good finds Green I like Bulbmin 3 better.

That's oficial content, I meant like a pro-base image. A concept of what the bulbmin looked like before the final print.Rocky


 * Yes, I know I meant he dug em' up. And the title is: Bulbmin3.jpg

s
Do Bulbmin deaths count towards your total Pikmin lost?


 * yes--Large_pixal_snowy_bulborb.PNG Yuki no  Bulborb 

look ppl i found on a .com its a orange pikminYsyty 00:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * What??


 * Not again.


 * No speculating or Crys is gonna kill us!--


 * Ysyty is already dead *Blood oozes from eyes*

0_0 (Rated M for blood and gore)--Itsa me! Louie G. 21:40, 6 June 2012 (EDT)

I wonder if the parisetic pikmin will find a different host. A flying pikmin would be cool--173.22.133.126 05:44, January 3, 2010 (UTC)Alien mazic


 * In theory, the pikmin could infect any beast, except for a few, such as the Emperor Bulblax, the Water Wraith, Man-At-Legs, Beady Long Legs, and Raging Long Legs. Pik dude 200px-Mario you phail.gif 14:59, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Why can't they infect Beady, Raging and the Emperor?

Because beady's abdomin is too high to reach by a parasitic pikmin, same with the raging long legs,the water wraith is a gost and therefore cannot be infected,and the emporer bulblax is probably too big.Redradish 03:52, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Couldn't they climb the Beady's Legs?


 * Hard shells, people, hard shells blocking access to nervous system. Pik  dude 200px-Mario you phail.gif 12:34, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think Beady long legs eat using "mouths" (is that how you would say it) on their feet. Some bugs have similar structures on their feet that can "taste". So (unrelated) would they be able to taste their feet too? I wonder if their feet are sweet. (PS if anyone gets that reference I will do something that will be decided upon on a later date) --Itsa me! Louie G. 21:43, 6 June 2012 (EDT)

it would also be crushed by the feet before it could even think about climbing the legs...and isn't beady a robot anywayRedradish 22:46, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, the BLL and it's kind are creatures bonded with machinery, the best example being the Man-at-Legs. Pik dude 200px-Mario you phail.gif 23:59, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

How do you explain the fact that it ocasionaly catches on fire when it has low healthRedradish 00:10, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Spontaneous combustion.

My theory on the whole smoking then exploding thing is so that no one and nothing can find it's weakness. Exept I also think that the pikmin 1 bll is a machine because when you kill it, oil comes out.User:Masta pikminFear da blue pikmin!!!! 03:17, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Will you cut it with the fucking speculatory theorys?!

Ummmm...This is my first one. And really, do you have to be rude about it?User:Masta pikminFear da blue pikmin!!!! 22:09, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes i fucking do


 * Wow, I'm gone for 2 days and there's speculation on the fritz and Crys has already gotten to it.--


 * Please no swearing, I hate spectulation in the improper place (not on this wiki, for example), but I hate swearing more. And did I not just say that the BLL is animal bonded with machinery?! That explains the oil and the flames. Anyone seen Avatar? Pik dude 200px-Mario you phail.gif 02:54, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Game: Crys ftw @Pikdude: Er... yeah, I saw it, so what?


 * Good movie, been editing on the Avatar wiki. |Here it is, type in Avatar.wikia and you get the Last Airbender.

Pik dude  02:38, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

the BLL isnt machine... it makes wax secretions that explain all the aforementioned oil and everything. same with raging probably. But, woouldn't Groinks be on the list? though it'd be cool to have pikmin that shoot grenade thingies. Then I will Finally get REVENGE!!! mostly cuz they killed half my pikmin in the secret testing range... :P -random creepy guy

What?
I was in Frontier cavern sublevel 5 I think and I threw a Bulbmin into a Violet Candypop bud, but the trail it left was purple. Glitch? Loafy the Breadbug


 * I don't know if it would deserve its own page, can anyone else confirm this?


 * I don't have access to the game ATM, but I've never seen it happen (or, at least, never noticed it). Even if other people confirm it happens every time, it's still pretty minor.  Section at glitches, maybe.  G  P 

Tripping
Just wondering, can Bulbmin trip like other colours? If they don't we could include it in the article as trivia Loafy the Breadbug
 * Hm, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure they don't.
 * Players don't encounter Bulbmin that often, so it's hard to say. Not to mention that Pikmin in general trip a lot less in the second game. {EspyoT} 09:51, 27 March 2011 (EDT)

Weird Stuff
Some weird paranormal 2spooky4me stuff is going on with this page, can someone help me out?

Captains, dismissed. (talk) 01:36, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

I feel like the problem has to do with having 2 info boxes. That's all I can think of.

The Migrant Lithopod (talk) 02:29, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

We need to figure out how to fix it though... Any ideas?

Captains, dismissed. (talk) 02:57, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is splitting this article into two articles; one for the Adult Bulbmin, and one for the Juvenile. I realize it's not very practical, but it's all I can think of. The Migrant Lithopod (talk) 03:00, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

That might be what's needed... Think you can leade the charge? Also, more paranormal stuff.

I am become death. (talk) 03:55, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Comment by Jpmrocks7 on 17th December 2013
Should we maybe change th layout to feature Bulbmin as a pikmin type first, then as an enemy? This page needs a bit of a work out... - Jpmrocks7 (talk &bull; contribs)


 * I think it should be menacing version first, then the cute version :3 - Space1255 (talk &bull; contribs)

Better photos
Are there any photos of Bulbmin that are like this? http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Red_Pikmin1.png Bulbmin are the only Pikmin that don't have a photo like that. Esb5415 (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2015 (EDT)


 * Unfortunately, no, because those images come from Pikmin 3 official art. Bulbmin never appeared in Pikmin 3, so... &mdash; {EspyoT} 04:12, 3 July 2015 (EDT)

Proving the damage dealt by Bulbmin.

 * Hey, Espyo... there's some sort of to do that says to prove whether the attack power is 5 or 10. Now, I'll admit, that does seem like a fair point to bring up, but how does one go about finding out this invisible number of Bulbmin attack strength? Count how many hits it takes for 1 Bulbmin to slay a Dwarf Red Bulborb? I had a little formula in mind for this process, if so, and I'm assuming that Pikmin maturity does not matter in the least:

1 Bulbmin Number of Hits to fell a DRB [Dwarf Red Bulborb] = X (This applies to them having 10 for attack strength.)

1 Bulbmin Number of Hits to fell a DRB = Y (This applies to them having 5 for attack strength.)


 * I think I might have a way to differentiate the two: throw in one White/Yellow/Blue Pikmin at the DRB and count the number of times they hit the Breadbug before it falls since these three have an attack strength of 10. Then, toss in a Bulbmin and count the number of hits it takes for one Bulbmin to fell a DRB. Here's my second formula for that:

If X is = Number of hits it takes for a White/Blue/Yellow Pikmin to fell a DRB, then Bulbmin have 10 for an attack strength.

If X is > Number of hits it takes for a W/B/Y Pikmin to fell a DRB, then Y is true and they have 5 for an attack strength.


 * If their attack strength is 5, then wouldn't that make them the weakest of the Pikmin family, applicable to Pikmin 2? If so, that would probably be worth a mention in Trivia.--TheTruth23 (talk) 08:29, 16 October 2015 (EDT)


 * Well, don't worry too much about that. These values are easily obtained with memory reading. Like, checking what address holds the HP value of an enemy, letting a Bulbmin pummel once, and checking the HP after. I'm not sure if the "first hit causes double damage" rule applies to Pikmin 2, but that can be checked easily too. Anyway, this is best done with Dolphin, so if you don't have it, ignore it and somebody else will take care of it one day. &mdash; {EspyoT} 10:05, 16 October 2015 (EDT)

How does one Bulbmin?
In Pikmin, there are so many weird creatures. But the bulbmin really confuse me. How did a bulborb get infected by a Pikmin? Maybe more light will be shed on the concept. What are your theories? Maybe a parasite Pikmin? Maybe an enemy of great power fused them together! So, can you guys help me?
 * It's really a mystery. I hope they expand on it in Pikmin 4. If it is a parasite Pikmin, it might have infected other enemies too. What if that's even the central plot of Pikmin 4? Oh, one thing, please sign your posts with a  at the end. Thanks! &mdash; {EspyoT} 03:59, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

I'd say a creature got too close to the onion when it ejected seeds, and a seed landed on the creature planting itself inside the creature instead of the ground.Pikmin Theories (talk) 20:48, 8 February 2017 (EST)

Split
Currently, this article describes 2 quite different things: the enemy Bulbmin, and the Pikmin type Bulbmin. These things have the same name and are the same species, but they behave very differently, and force this article to be both an enemy article and a Pikmin type article. Considering this, should they continue to be described on the same page, or should this article be split? &mdash; Soprano(talk) 21:18, January 7, 2023 (EST)
 * I think it's fine the way it is. But if this page were to be split, how would it be satisfactorily named? The main page could become a disambiguation page, and link to Bulbmin (enemy)/(adult)]] and Bulbmin (Pikmin)/(juvenile)]], but that's not too great. It's certainly better than the unlikely alternative, which is making Bulbmin (disambiguation) and having either the adult or the juvenile be the focus of the Bulbmin while the other gets the short end of the stick title-wise.
 * Yeah, it would have to "Bulbmin (enemy)" and "Bulbmin (Pikmin)". &mdash; {EspyoT} 14:04, January 9, 2023 (EST)
 * "Bulbmin (Pikmin)" is kind of weird. The adults are still Pikmin, after all, even if they don't act like it when it comes to gameplay. 2 B (talk) 17:21, January 13, 2023 (EST)
 * I also think it's fine the way it is. In the Piklopedia in Pikmin 2, they aren't treated separately. --Kirby Bulborb (talk) 03:56, July 14, 2023 (EDT)