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Misc. cleanup.
(I had a personal text file where I hastily pointed down ideas for this article. I was getting tired of maintaining both this page and the text file, so I've moved things from the file to here. Also, misc. improvements.)
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* Sources. Oh so many sources. Check guides on GameFAQs?
* Sources. Oh so many sources. Check guides on GameFAQs?
* Organize this better. Some misconceptions are in the rumors/myths section and vice-versa
* Louie is character D ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Pikmin/comments/e7w6b9/so_apparently_pikmin_3_wasrushed/])
* Louie is character D ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Pikmin/comments/e7w6b9/so_apparently_pikmin_3_wasrushed/])
* Pikmin 4 is Hey! Pikmin
* Pikmin 4 is Hey! Pikmin
* Expand the Beady Long Legs escape info with:
** [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Beady_Long_Legs?diff=23807&oldid=22896 myth birth]
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9wRNfGV8Wg attempt]
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseKQ7yslvU proven fake in the debug exe]
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXJFQKinoBM proven fake in-game]
** [https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin&diff=173933&oldid=172786 last version of the page that had that info]
* Pikmin is named after "pick me" or Miyamoto's dog "Pikku", some info [https://www.pikminwiki.com/Time_Capsule#Trivia here]
* Pikmin is named after "pick me" or Miyamoto's dog "Pikku", some info [https://www.pikminwiki.com/Time_Capsule#Trivia here]
* Purple Pikmin trip less
* Purple Pikmin trip less
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* Blue Pikmin have mouths, gills, something else?
* Blue Pikmin have mouths, gills, something else?
* The Pikmin anime-like video at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdxZDtUA8fY] is thought to be official
* The Pikmin anime-like video at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdxZDtUA8fY] is thought to be official
* Pikmin 3 only has [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ORCopJ_g6E three endings]; in reality it has four
* Miyamoto based Pikmin off his garden -- in reality it was a publicity stunt (needs source)
* Miyamoto based Pikmin off his garden -- in reality it was a publicity stunt (needs source)
* If you whistle Pikmin that are lying down, they get up faster. Actually, this needs to be confirmed for every game, and if true in any, added to the [[combat]] article
* If you whistle Pikmin that are lying down, they get up faster. Actually, this needs to be confirmed for every game, and if true in any, added to the [[combat]] article
* Gray and Pink Candypop Buds have official names
* Gray and Pink Candypop Buds have official names
* The President's name kinda is "Schachō" really, according to some official source. I think it was a Japanese Pikmin 2 website?
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=== Gameplay ===
=== Gameplay ===
* Because of how {{p3}}'s [[data file]]s explain that [[Winged Pikmin]] are great in aerial [[combat]]{{cite quote|Winged Pikmin are aces in aerial combat.|the [[data file]] "Winged Pikmin #4"|''Pikmin 3''}}, many fans interpreted this as meaning that Winged Pikmin cause more damage against airborne [[enemies]]<ref>[http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Winged_Pikmin&oldid=119372 Old revision of the Winged Pikmin page on Pikipedia]</ref>{{cite youtube|0nxKz1HDSvs|of a Let's Player talking about the supposed double damage of Winged Pikmin|m=14|s=45}}. In reality, they cause the least amount of damage of all Pikmin types in this game (tying with White Pikmin), regardless of their opponent. They are only recommended for aerial combat since their flight ability makes it possible for them to chase airborne creatures instead of having to be thrown precisely at them.
* Because of how {{p3}}'s [[data file]]s explain that [[Winged Pikmin]] are great in aerial [[combat]]{{cite quote|Winged Pikmin are aces in aerial combat.|the [[data file]] "Winged Pikmin #4"|''Pikmin 3''}}, many fans interpreted this as meaning that Winged Pikmin cause more damage against airborne [[enemies]]<ref>[https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Winged_Pikmin&oldid=119372 Old revision of the Winged Pikmin page on Pikipedia]</ref>{{cite youtube|0nxKz1HDSvs|of a Let's Player talking about the supposed double damage of Winged Pikmin|m=14|s=45}}. In reality, they cause the least amount of damage of all Pikmin types in this game (tying with White Pikmin), regardless of their opponent. They are only recommended for aerial combat since their flight ability makes it possible for them to chase airborne creatures instead of having to be thrown precisely at them.
* In {{p2}}, [[ultra-spicy spray]] does not increase the Pikmin's attack ''speed'', only their ''movement'' speed and [[combat|attack]] ''power''.
* In {{p2}}, [[ultra-spicy spray]] does not increase the Pikmin's attack ''speed'', only their ''movement'' speed and [[combat|attack]] ''power''.
* Some players initially assume that in order to obtain a pink flower in ''Pikmin 2'''s [[Challenge Mode (Pikmin 2)|Challenge Mode]], they must not let a single [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] die ''and'' collect all [[treasure]]s. In reality, only the former is needed.
* Some players initially assume that in order to obtain a pink flower in ''Pikmin 2'''s [[Challenge Mode (Pikmin 2)|Challenge Mode]], they must not let a single [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] die ''and'' collect all [[treasure]]s. In reality, only the former is needed.
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=== Aesthetic ===
=== Aesthetic ===
* In ''Pikmin 2'', when walking around on an area or cave that has no more [[treasure]]s, the Pikmin in the group will occasionally chant part of [[Music in Pikmin 2#Leitmotifs|game's leitmotif]]. Because the notes are so similar, some fans initially thought that they were singing the main theme of ''[[mariowiki:Luigi's Mansion|Luigi's Mansion]]''{{cite web|https://www.chaptercheats.com/cheat/wii/105243/Pikmin-2/egg/2666/|Luigi's Mansion reference|ChapterCheats|published={{date|31|July|2013}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}{{cite web|https://www.reddit.com/r/Pikmin/comments/150qj8/ive_been_watching_some_pikmin_2_footage_on/|I've been watching some Pikmin 2 footage on YouTube, and I'm just wondering; are the Pikmin humming the 'Luigi's Mansion' theme while in the underground caves?|reddit|published={{date|17|December|2012}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}. The fact that that game also had a trailer for ''Pikmin'' bundled in the options may have helped players make the connection.
* In ''Pikmin 2'', when walking around on an area or cave that has no more [[treasure]]s, the Pikmin in the group will occasionally chant part of [[Music in Pikmin 2#Leitmotifs|game's leitmotif]]. Because the notes are so similar, some fans initially thought that they were singing the main theme of ''[[mariowiki:Luigi's Mansion|Luigi's Mansion]]''{{cite web|https://www.chaptercheats.com/cheat/wii/105243/Pikmin-2/egg/2666/|Luigi's Mansion reference|ChapterCheats|published={{date|31|July|2013}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}{{cite web|https://www.reddit.com/r/Pikmin/comments/150qj8/ive_been_watching_some_pikmin_2_footage_on/|I've been watching some Pikmin 2 footage on YouTube, and I'm just wondering; are the Pikmin humming the 'Luigi's Mansion' theme while in the underground caves?|reddit|published={{date|17|December|2012}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}. The fact that that game also had a trailer for ''Pikmin'' bundled in the options may have helped players make the connection.
* The requirements for obtaining the "happy" [[Music in Pikmin 2#Sunset|sunset theme]] in ''Pikmin 2'' are not defined anywhere, and because of how rare it is, it is hard for players to know them. It was previously believed that they played after obtaining 1000 [[Poko]]s in one day, 2000 Pokos, or if the debt is cleared to 50% or 90%. In reality, the player needs to gather 15 or more [[treasure]]s in the same day.
* The requirements for obtaining the "happy" [[Music in Pikmin 2#Sunset|sunset theme]] in ''Pikmin 2'' are not defined anywhere, and because of how rare it is, it is hard for players to figure them out. It was previously believed that they played after obtaining 1000 [[Poko]]s in one day, 2000 Pokos, or if the debt is cleared to 50% or 90%. In reality, the player needs to gather 15 or more [[treasure]]s in the same day.
* Due to its square shape, some fans believe that the [[Titan Dweevil]]'s arena is based on the [[GameCube]]. When viewed from the top, however, it becomes clear that it is some sort of sink or shower base.
* Due to its square shape, some fans believe that the [[Titan Dweevil]]'s arena is based on the [[GameCube]]. When viewed from the top, however, it becomes clear that it is some sort of sink or shower base.


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* Fans that are new to the series might believe that [[Dwarf Red Bulborb]]s are the [[Red Bulborb]]'s young. In fact, they are a different species, [[breadbug]]s, that mimic the larger [[grub-dog]]s.
* Fans that are new to the series might believe that [[Dwarf Red Bulborb]]s are the [[Red Bulborb]]'s young. In fact, they are a different species, [[breadbug]]s, that mimic the larger [[grub-dog]]s.
* Because of the names of the [[ship parts]] given to [[Captain Olimar]] by his children, some fans call the son "Sagittarius" and the daughter "Libra". The two of them are never given a name in [[canon]] media, however.
* Because of the names of the [[ship parts]] given to [[Captain Olimar]] by his children, some fans call the son "Sagittarius" and the daughter "Libra". The two of them are never given a name in [[canon]] media, however.
* It is commonly stated that ''Pikmin 3'' has 3 endings: a bad ending, a neutral ending, and a good ending. It actually has [[Cutscene#Endings|4 endings]], and the ending a player gets is only dependent on the number of [[fruit]]s collected.
* It is commonly stated{{cite youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ORCopJ_g6E|showcasing three of ''Pikmin 3''{{'s}} endings|published={{date|1|August|2013}}|retrieved={{date|29|July|2021}}}} that ''Pikmin 3'' has three endings: a bad one, a neutral one, and a good one. It actually has [[Cutscene#Endings|four endings]], and the ending a player gets is only dependent on the number of [[fruit]]s collected.
* Some fans believe that [[Louie]] is taking full control of the [[Titan Dweevil]] and uses it to attack Captain Olimar and [[the President]], while others think Louie has no control, or is just doing nonsense{{cite web|https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/589374-pikmin-2/42964447|Why would Louie control...(I don't understand this final boss theory)|GameFAQs|published={{date|5|May|2008}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}{{cite web|http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/5731/t450455-louie-evil/|Is Louie Evil?|Neoseeker Forums|published={{date|20|October|2004}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}. The [[sales pitch]] for the [[King of Bugs]] treasure mentions that he managed to hijack the creature's brain{{cite quote|{{Notes:King of Bugs/sale}}|[[Hocotate Ship]]|[[King of Bugs]]'s [[sales pitch]]}}, but other than that, there is no other official indicator of how much control Louie had over the Titan Dweevil.
* Some fans believe that [[Louie]] is taking full control of the [[Titan Dweevil]] and uses it to attack Captain Olimar and [[the President]], while others think Louie has no control, or is just doing nonsense{{cite web|https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/589374-pikmin-2/42964447|Why would Louie control...(I don't understand this final boss theory)|GameFAQs|published={{date|5|May|2008}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}{{cite web|http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/5731/t450455-louie-evil/|Is Louie Evil?|Neoseeker Forums|published={{date|20|October|2004}}|retrieved={{date|28|December|2017}}}}. The [[sales pitch]] for the [[King of Bugs]] treasure mentions that he managed to hijack the creature's brain{{cite quote|{{Notes:King of Bugs/sale}}|[[Hocotate Ship]]|[[King of Bugs]]'s [[sales pitch]]}}, but other than that, there is no other official indicator of how much control Louie had over the Titan Dweevil.


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* Some may think that [[the President]]'s name is Schachō, given that that is what's heard when a player switches to him as the active leader. This is simply the Japanese word for "company president", 社長.
* Some may think that [[the President]]'s name is Schachō, given that that is what's heard when a player switches to him as the active leader. This is simply the Japanese word for "company president", 社長.
* There are players who think that the [[Taste Sensation]] is a piece of sushi, but it's actually an {{w|onigiri}}, or a rice ball.
* There are players who think that the [[Taste Sensation]] is a piece of sushi, but it's actually an {{w|onigiri}}, or a rice ball.
* Because of the way ''Pikmin 3''{{'s}} files are organized, the [[Orange Bulborb]]'s textures are in the same archive as the [[Red Bulborb]]. When data-miners managed to obtain the game's textures, it was revealed that the Red Bulborb's archive has, indeed, textures for the Orange Bulborb, but also has some mysterious white and gray textures. These were initially thought to belong to a third, unused type of Bulborb, since it's known that one enemy's archive can have variants for other enemies inside of it.<ref>[http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Unused_content_in_Pikmin_3&oldid=153196 Old revision of the Unused content in ''Pikmin 3'' page on Pikipedia]</ref> Later research proved that the texture in question was merely the Red Bulborb's specular map texture, but not before some fans ended up believing there was an unused Bulborb variant in the game.
* Because of the way ''Pikmin 3''{{'s}} files are organized, the [[Orange Bulborb]]'s textures are in the same archive as the [[Red Bulborb]]. When dataminers managed to obtain the game's textures, it was revealed that the Red Bulborb's archive has, indeed, textures for the Orange Bulborb, but also has some mysterious white and gray textures. These were initially thought to belong to a third, unused type of Bulborb, since it's known that one enemy's archive can have variants for other enemies inside of it.<ref>[https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Unused_content_in_Pikmin_3&oldid=153196 Old revision of the Unused content in ''Pikmin 3'' page on Pikipedia]</ref> Later research proved that the texture in question was merely the Red Bulborb's specular map texture, but not before some fans ended up believing there was an unused Bulborb variant in the game.
* In [[2-Player Battle]], should [[Captain Olimar]] collect three yellow marbles, the Pikmin will begin cheering for him: ''O-ri-ma!''. Because this chant makes reference to Olimar's Japanese name, "Orima", some English-speaking fans can misinterpret the Pikmin's words as "Hurry!" or "Hurry up!".
* In [[2-Player Battle]], should [[Captain Olimar]] collect three yellow marbles, the Pikmin will begin cheering for him by chanting "''O-ri-ma!''". Because this chant makes reference to Olimar's Japanese name, "Orima", some English-speaking fans can misinterpret the Pikmin's words as "Hurry!" or "Hurry up!".
* The official name of the [[area]]s in ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' all begin with the word "The". Although incorrect, it is common to see the names written out without that word, or with it written in lowercase.
* For some time, it was believed that the [[Easter eggs|secret Nintendo logo sounds]] in ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' could be chosen using the buttons on the controllers. This is false; the buttons play no role in how the game [[Randomization|randomly]] decides which sound to pick.
* For some time, it was believed that the [[Easter eggs|secret Nintendo logo sounds]] in ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' could be chosen using the buttons on the controllers. This is false; the buttons play no role in how the game [[Randomization|randomly]] decides which sound to pick.
* [[Olimar's monologs|Olimar's monolog]] when he finds the [[Analog Computer]] includes the text "it's a little bit too vague, so it isn't very helpful.{{cite quote|{{Notes:Analog Computer/monolog}}|Olimar|the Analog Computer's description}}, leaving some players to believe that the ship part is actually not needed in order to escape [[PNF-404]]. Despite the misleading message, the ship part is mandatory.
* [[Olimar's monologs|Olimar's monolog]] when he finds the [[Analog Computer]] includes the text "it's a little bit too vague, so it isn't very helpful.{{cite quote|{{Notes:Analog Computer/monolog}}|Olimar|the Analog Computer's description}}, leaving some players to believe that the ship part is actually not needed in order to escape [[PNF-404]]. Despite the misleading message, the ship part is mandatory.
* The official name of the [[area]]s in ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' all begin with the word "The". Although incorrect, it is common to see the names written out without that word, or with it written in lowercase.
* The official names of the [[area]]s in ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' all begin with the word "The". Although incorrect, it is common to see the names written out without that word, or with it written in lowercase.
* Because of the names of previous members of the [[Pikmin family]], some fans incorrectly refer to [[Rock Pikmin|Rock]] and [[Winged Pikmin]] as "Gray" and "Pink" Pikmin.
* Because of the names of previous members of the [[Pikmin family]], some fans incorrectly refer to [[Rock Pikmin]] and [[Winged Pikmin]] as "Gray Pikmin" and "Pink Pikmin".


== Myths and rumors ==
== Myths and rumors ==
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=== Blue Pikmin are more likely to be eaten ===
=== Blue Pikmin are more likely to be eaten ===
It has long been thought that [[Blue Pikmin]] in ''Pikmin 2'' are more likely to be picked when an enemy lunges at the player's group. For years, there has been no proof of this, but community efforts in August 2017 ended up proving that this is actually partially true in general, but not always. An in-depth explanation can be found [[Combat#Likeliness to die|here]].
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It has long been thought that [[Blue Pikmin]] in ''Pikmin 2'' are more likely to be picked when an enemy lunges at the player's group. For years, there has been no proof of this, but community efforts in August 2017 ended up proving that this is actually partially true in general, but not always.


=== Brittany is from Coppa Lee ===
=== Brittany is from Coppa Lee ===
Some time after the ''Pikmin 3'' Japanese website was put up, English-speaking fans attempted to translate the documents to gather information about the new [[leader]]s. Due to the misuse of Google Translate, the "translation" for {{j|コッパイ|Koppai}} was "Coppa Lee".<ref>[http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Brittany&oldid=131419 Old revision of the Brittany page on Pikipedia]</ref> In addition, it was thought that the word right next to it, {{j|星|hoshi}}, meant that Koppai is a star, but in the correct context, it's referring to how Brittany is one of Koppaite's stars, in the sense of bright people.
Some time after the ''Pikmin 3'' Japanese website was put up, English-speaking fans attempted to translate the documents to gather information about the new [[leader]]s. Due to the misuse of Google Translate, the "translation" for [[Koppai]] ({{j|コッパイ|Koppai}}) was "Coppa Lee".<ref>[https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Brittany&oldid=131419 Old revision of the Brittany page on Pikipedia]</ref> In addition, it was thought that the word right next to it, {{j|星|hoshi}}, meant that Koppai is a star, but in the correct context, it's referring to how Brittany is one of Koppaite's stars, in the sense of bright people.


=== Three Pikmin carrying a 1 pellet ===
=== Three Pikmin carrying a 1 pellet ===
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=== Beady Long Legs escape glitch ===
=== Beady Long Legs escape glitch ===
One well known, but hardly reproduced [[Glitches in Pikmin|glitch in ''Pikmin'']] involves luring the [[Beady Long Legs]] out of its intended arena, where it can roam the terrain freely. According to the myth, it can also crash the game if it falls into the [[bottomless pit]] of [[The Forest Navel]]. There has been no footage or even reports of this glitch happening, and investigations into the Beady Long Legs's AI has found that there is no way it can happen, which raises the question of how it got documented in the first place.
{{main|Beady Long Legs#Presumed glitch}}
A suposed [[Glitches in Pikmin|glitch in ''Pikmin'']] involves luring the [[Beady Long Legs]] out of its intended arena, where it can roam the terrain freely. According to the myth, it can also crash the game if it falls into the [[bottomless pit]] of [[The Forest Navel]]. There has been no footage or even reports of this glitch happening, and investigations into the Beady Long Legs's AI has found that there is no way it can happen, which raises the question of how it got documented in the first place.


===''Pikmin 3'' has a removed sixth area===
===''Pikmin 3'' has a removed sixth area===