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'''Pit''' (also called '''bottomless pit''', '''abyss''' or '''void''') is the name given to the depths down below where the level is on top of. In games, these pits usually kill or harm creatures that fall into them, and for the most part, their bottom is unknown. In the [[Pikmin series|''Pikmin'' series]], a pit's punishment on an object that falls in depends on a variety of factors.
'''Pit''' (also called '''bottomless pit''', '''abyss''', or '''void''') is the name given to the depths down below where the level is on top of. In games, these pits usually kill or harm creatures that fall into them, and for the most part, their bottom is unknown. In the [[Pikmin series|''Pikmin'' series]], a pit's punishment on an object that falls in depends on a variety of factors.


Most [[area]]s are considered to take place at ground-level, but some areas and [[cave]]s clearly take place suspended above a seemingly endless abyss. There are borders almost everywhere stopping creatures from just walking off the edge and falling down, although some [[Enemy|enemies]] can take steps large enough to walk over these boundaries, and [[leader]]s can throw [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] or their own partners over the boundaries.
Most [[area]]s are considered to take place at ground-level, but some areas and [[cave]]s clearly take place suspended above a seemingly endless abyss. There are borders almost everywhere stopping creatures from just walking off the edge and falling down, although some [[Enemy|enemies]] can take steps large enough to walk over these boundaries, and [[leader]]s can throw [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] or their own partners over the boundaries.


Technically, all levels contain a bottomless pit – environments that appear to be at ground-level simply keep a pit {{w|Plane (geometry)|plane}} right under the ground. This can be proven by the fact that, in some [[glitches|extraordinary cases]], Pikmin or leaders can go through the ground, and will act as if they had fallen into a regular pit.
Technically, all [[area]]s contain a bottomless pit – environments that appear to be at ground-level simply keep a pit {{w|Plane (geometry)|plane}} right under the ground. This can be proven by the fact that, in some [[glitch|extraordinary cases]], Pikmin or leaders can go through the ground, and will act as if they had fallen into a regular pit.


==Locations==
==Locations==
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===''Pikmin 3''===
===''Pikmin 3''===
The only way to access abysses in the main mode is through glitches that push objects under or off the level. In [[Mission Mode]] and [[Bingo Battle]] however, pits exist in the same fashion as in ''[[Pikmin 2]]'', that is, as the area below metallic levels. In Mission Mode, this is [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in Bingo Battle, this is the [[Rusted Labyrinth]] and [[Corroded Maze]].
The only way to access abysses in [[Story Mode]] is through glitches that push objects under or off the level. In [[Mission Mode]] and [[Bingo Battle]] however, pits exist in the same fashion as in ''[[Pikmin 2]]'', that is, as the area below metallic levels. In Mission Mode, this is [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in Bingo Battle, this is the [[Rusted Labyrinth]] and [[Corroded Maze]]. In Version 1.4.0 or higher of Pikmin 3 and Pikmin 3 Deluxe, falling into an abyss causes leaders to lose one third of their health.
 
===''Pikmin 4''===
There are no pits in overworld areas nor [[Dandori Battle]]s, but some caves and [[Dandori Challenge]]s do contain abysses like in ''Pikmin 2''.
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;Caves:
*[[Industrial Maze]], both sublevels.
*[[Drafty Gallery]], all sublevels.
*[[Below-Grade Discotheque]], all sublevels.
*[[Doppelgänger's Den]], sublevels 2 and 3.
*[[Ultimate Testing Range]], all sublevels.
*[[Cavern for a King]], sublevels 4, 6 and 7.
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;Dandori Challenges:
*[[Aerial Incinerator]]
*[[Trial of the Sage Leaf]], story 5, "The White Key", and story 6, "Gimmick Gambit".
|}


==Behavior==
==Behavior==
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In ''Pikmin 2'', it is easier for leaders to fall into the void, although still only in unintended ways. If a leader falls off while in a regular state, he will just reappear back on top of the Research Pod or the Hocotate ship without problem. On the [[Awakening Wood]] and the [[Perplexing Pool]], this leads to otherwise-unreachable paths.
In ''Pikmin 2'', it is easier for leaders to fall into the void, although still only in unintended ways. If a leader falls off while in a regular state, he will just reappear back on top of the Research Pod or the Hocotate ship without problem. On the [[Awakening Wood]] and the [[Perplexing Pool]], this leads to otherwise-unreachable paths.


However, if a leader falls while in a [[lie down|lying down]] state, one of two things will happen: he will either be treated as a treasure (see the [[#Other objects|other objects section]] below), or he will become stuck in a [[Glitches in Pikmin 2#Frozen captain glitch|frozen state]]. What decides the outcome seems to be purely random.{{cite youtube|F4r3jCGrBZA|showing what happens if a lying leader falls into the pit at different times}}
However, if a leader falls while in a [[lie down|lying down]] state, one of two things will happen: he will either be treated as a treasure (see the [[#Other objects|other objects section]] below), or he will become stuck in a [[Glitches in Pikmin 2#Frozen leader glitch|frozen state]]. What decides the outcome seems to be purely random.{{cite youtube|F4r3jCGrBZA|showing what happens if a lying leader falls into the pit at different times}}


In order to fall into the abyss in an area with a leader, a glitch must be abused, like the [[Glitches in Pikmin 2#Seesaw block glitch|seesaw block glitch]]. To fall off in a cave, the leader can be carried by a [[Dweevil family|dweevil]].
In order to fall into the abyss in an area with a leader, a glitch must be abused, like the [[Glitches in Pikmin 2#Seesaw block glitch|seesaw block glitch]]. To fall off in a cave, the leader can be carried by a [[Dweevil family|dweevil]].
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====''Pikmin 3''====
====''Pikmin 3''====
{{game help|p3|Expand on this info (plus, what about the Bingo Battle stages?).}}
{{game help|p3|Expand on this info (plus, what about the Bingo Battle stages?).}}
In ''Pikmin 3'', falling into the abyss was hard, but possible, prior to the [[Update|1.4.0 update]]. Before said version, leaders could only touch the pit plane by [[Glitches in Pikmin 3#Early Winged Pikmin|glitching into walls]]. Much like in ''Pikmin 2'', leaders that touch the void are merely respawned back in a specific location, which can be used to skip portions of the area. After the aforementioned update, leaders started taking [[health|damage]] when falling off (one third of their maximum health), and would respawn back on the stage, although in a different place than before, removing some exploits. In ''Pikmin 3'', with the existence of the [[Rusted Labyrinth]], it is possible for leaders to be thrown into the abyss, making it the first time in the series in which leaders can touch the abyss on purpose, instead of only with exploits.
In ''Pikmin 3'', falling into the abyss was hard, but possible, prior to the [[Update|1.4.0 update]]. Before said version, leaders could only touch the pit plane by [[Glitches in Pikmin 3#Early Winged Pikmin|glitching into walls]]. Much like in ''Pikmin 2'', leaders that touch the void are merely respawned back in a specific location, which can be used to skip portions of the area. In ''Pikmin 3'', with the existence of the [[Rusted Labyrinth]], it is possible for leaders to be thrown into the abyss, making it the first time in the series in which leaders can touch the abyss on purpose, instead of only with exploits.
 
====''Pikmin 4''====
[[Oatchi]]'s jumping ability makes it easy for him to pass over railings and into the abyss, optionally while carrying the [[Pikmin 4 player character|player character]]. If either of them fall, they will return to the floor in a ball of light without taking any harm. Any Pikmin riding on Oatchi's back will return along with him, but Pikmin in a squad following the player character will die as if they were falling alone.


===Pikmin===
===Pikmin===
Pikmin that fall into the abyss will be killed. In ''Pikmin 3'', their death scream is long and high-pitched, clearly noting that they have been thrown into one. Although rare, it is possible for Pikmin to touch the pit plane on seemingly "pitless" areas, via a glitch such as the [[Glitches in Pikmin#Crushing glitch|crushing glitch]].
Pikmin that fall into the abyss will be killed. In ''Pikmin 3'', their death scream is long and high-pitched, clearly noting that they have been thrown into one. Although rare, it is possible for Pikmin to touch the pit plane on seemingly "pitless" areas, via a glitch such as the [[Glitches in Pikmin#Crushing glitch|crushing glitch]].
In ''Pikmin'', [[bomb-rock]] [[Yellow Pikmin]] that touch the pit will cause the bomb-rock to explode instantly, but with some peculiar behavior – the explosion happens roughly on the right spot, but at ground level, and is invisible and silent. This explosion can harm leaders and Pikmin.{{cite youtube|yEyPaEJmlrk|of bomb-rock Pikmin touching the abyss and killing Pikmin on the surface}} An easy way to see this in action is by going to the corridors with fire geysers on [[The Forest Navel]], having a group of Pikmin, and throwing a bomb-rock Pikmin down into the pit, as close to the ledge as possible. There is a chance that an invisible explosion will kill the Pikmin on the corridor.
[[Glow Pikmin]] cannot die from falling into an abyss, as they will only fall a short distance before teleporting back to the active leader's squad.


===Enemies===
===Enemies===
In the first two games, enemies that fall in a pit are killed right away. If the enemy was carrying a [[treasure]], said treasure will just reappear on the stage.
In the first two games, enemies that fall in a pit are killed right away. If the enemy was carrying a [[treasure]], said treasure will just reappear on the stage.


In ''Pikmin'', the only way to see enemies fall off is by luring a Shearwig into an area with a low boundary, damaging it, and hoping it flies over it. Other than that, there is [[Glitches in Pikmin#Beady Long Legs escape|a notorious glitch]] with the [[Beady Long Legs]], in that if it escapes its arena, and is lured to the bottomless pit near the section with the [[Libra]], the game will freeze.
In ''Pikmin'', the only way to see enemies fall off is by luring a Shearwig into an area with a low boundary, damaging it, and hoping it flies over it. Other than that, there is [[Beady Long Legs#Presumed glitch|a presumed glitch]] with the [[Beady Long Legs]], in that if it escapes its arena, and is lured to the bottomless pit near the section with the [[Libra]], the game will freeze.


In ''Pikmin 2'', the boundaries on some of the metal-themed cave sublevels are low enough for large enemies to cross over, such as [[Gatling Groink]]s and [[Fiery Bulblax]]es. These enemies can be made to cross the edge by having prey on the other side; they'll walk off while attempting to chase their target. This can be exploited in order to kill the enemies easily and without consequence.
In ''Pikmin 2'', the boundaries on some of the metal-themed cave sublevels are low enough for large enemies to cross over, such as [[Gatling Groink]]s and [[Fiery Bulblax]]es. These enemies can be made to cross the edge by having prey on the other side; they'll walk off while attempting to chase their target. This can be exploited in order to kill the enemies easily and without consequence.


For ''Pikmin 3'', the rules were changed a bit: enemies that fall off the edge are put back onto the ledge that they fell off of in a similar way to that of the leaders. The enemies, however, do not take any damage. This is observable in [[Mission Mode]] in stages such as the [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in [[Bingo Battle]] in stages such as the [[Corroded Maze]].
For ''Pikmin 3'', the rules were changed a bit: enemies that fall into the abyss are put back onto the ledge that they fell off of in a similar way to that of the leaders. The enemies, however, do not take any damage. This is observable in [[Mission Mode]] in stages such as the [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in [[Bingo Battle]] in stages such as the [[Corroded Maze]].


===Other objects===
===Other objects===
{{todo|Explain what happens to the cursor in each game – does it disappear (sinks to the bottom of the bottomless pit), or does it stay on an invisible plane at ground level?}}
[[Ship part]]s that fall into a pit will not return. Notoriously, the [[Libra]] has the potential to [[Glitches in Pikmin#Libra glitch|fall off the island]] it is at while being carried, and if it falls into the void, it cannot be recovered.
[[Ship part]]s that fall into a pit will not return. This is normally not a problem, but the [[Libra]] has the potential to [[Glitches in Pikmin#Libra glitch|fall off the island]] it is at while being carried, and if it falls into the void, it cannot be recovered.
 
In ''Pikmin 2'', all [[carry|carriable]] objects that fall off will simply reappear back on the stage near the point they fell, <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcemR6ZejJ4&t=300s YouTube video] accidentally showing what happens to both treasures and enemy corpses when they fall into a pit</ref> specifically on the closest [[Carry#Paths|carrying waypoint]]. This is also true for treasures being carried by Dweevils or treasures that are inside undefeated enemies due to them being disconnected/dropped when their holder is removed by the abyss.
 
In ''Pikmin 3'', fruits, treasures, and minor objects that fall into the abyss will simply reappear at their original location.
 
In ''Pikmin'', if the cursor is placed on a bottomless pit, it sinks to the bottom and becomes invisible. In ''Pikmin 2'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin 2'', and ''Pikmin 3'' (all [[controls|control]] schemes), it stays on an invisible plane at ground level.


In ''Pikmin 2'', [[treasure]]s that fall off will simply reappear back on the stage near the point they fell. Specifically, they reappear on the closest [[Carrying#Paths|carrying waypoint]]. This is also true for treasures being carried by [[Dweevils]] or treasures that are inside undefeated enemies.
== Trivia ==
* Internally, ''Pikmin 2'' calls the abyss <code>hell</code>.


==See also==
==See also==
*[[Out of bounds]]
*[[Bomb rock]]
*[[Bomb rock]]
*[[Glitches]]
*[[Glitches]]
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