Editing Talk:Armored Cannon Larva

Anonymous user brings up a good point. Every time I encounter one of these, I just swarm it and it's usually dead before it even gets the chance to buck. I can't even see the logic in throwing Pikmin. Should we just change the strategy? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:'That work?--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

::Ok... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''

Is it me, or do these things sound like pigs?

They sound just like blowhogs. It kind of bothers me that Nintendo didn't bother to give these new enemies a different sound. [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

:They don't sound ''exactly'' the same, the ACBL is wheezier... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::I can't tell the difference at all. Well, the ACBL does do this extra sound when it's not attacking. Maybe that's the wheezing. And this is slightly off-topic, but I think that the cannon beetles in Pikmin 2 were a big step down from the original. Does anyone else want to see some  Pikmin 1 enemies like the ACB, Goolix and Puffstool make a comeback in Pikmin 3? [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

:::Speculation Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd.... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::He's not speculating, he's being hopeful that certain enemies will return. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::Meh, I don't like hope either it's annoying... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::::...Need to quote that in various places...{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::::Your welcome... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

any1 got a pic of the ACBL (and/or the lithopods)  shooting a rock?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 23:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This wiki is not just pics!! {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}

 Has anyone noticed that in a new game you could only get an Armored Cannon Beetle Larva in the piklopedia if you kill one that's not buried?--[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 21:33, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Nope, never noticed anything of the sort. --[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 14:16, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

:So yeah, it's true, and the same for Gatling Groinks on platforms.  Also, killing buried ACBLs/platform Groinks doesn't add to your kill total in the Piklopedia.  Slightly related, if you kill a Groink (not on a platform), let it revive and kill it again, you get two kills added to the Piklopedia.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

Also if a buried Armored Cannon Beetle Larva kills pikmin it wont ad how much pikmin it killed in the piklopedia.It will only ad how much a not buried one killed.--[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 15:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

:Man, that sucks, you know how many times I went down to the Glutton's Kitchen! I thought my kill total would be something like 140 but it turns it's only 100! Also, say an Armored Cannon Beetle rock hits an enemy and kills it, does it count as your total because I'm sure it does...--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

::I don't know, that's a good question. I think it should, because there is more danger involved in that than a straight attack. [[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 22:19, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

==Possible Combination with ACB Page?==
Anyone think we should combine the the article with the Armored Cannon Beetle page? I don't think we should since it has its own Piklopedia entry. I'm just curious, if enough people think so, then we could make a subheading on the page stating "Larva" or something like that.[[File:3 Pikmin.png|35px]][[User:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:blue">Pikmin</span></b>]][[Image:Hairybulborb.jpg|30px]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:orange">1254</span></b>]][[Image:Specialpikmin.JPG|35px]]

:...No.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

I was thinking the same thing. The real reason why I made this part of the discussion is just in case someone was thinking of doing that.[[File:3 Pikmin.png|35px]][[User:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:blue">Pikmin</span></b>]][[Image:Hairybulborb.jpg|30px]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:orange">1254</span></b>]][[Image:Specialpikmin.JPG|35px]]

==...what==
Blue/white ACBL? What's this?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:In two player VS mode, on one of those cave stages, there is a blue/white cannon beetle larva. <span style="border:2px outset blue;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

::I'm not convinced. I've played them all multiple times and never seen one. Which stage?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

I played Pikmin all my life and if there was a blue/white one I would of seen it buy now.[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 21:27, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::Greenpickle - I guess I might have just been seeing things; I could have sworn that there were bluish white ones. I've recently played Pikmin 2 and there indeed are no white/blue ACBL.
:::Man at Legs - by* <span style="border:2px outset blue;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:43, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh thats how you spell it.[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 23:32, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blue ninja koopa were you trying to anoy me by correcting my spelling? I can't believe I have to ask you that......[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 06:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

:No such thing. Possibly a glitch in the game, or your TV has issues.[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 23:40, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

== ==

Anonymous user brings up a good point. Every time I encounter one of these, I just swarm it and it's usually dead before it even gets the chance to buck. I can't even see the logic in throwing Pikmin. Should we just change the strategy? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:'That work?--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

::Ok... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''

Is it me, or do these things sound like pigs?

They sound just like blowhogs. It kind of bothers me that Nintendo didn't bother to give these new enemies a different sound. [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

:They don't sound ''exactly'' the same, the ACBL is wheezier... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::I can't tell the difference at all. Well, the ACBL does do this extra sound when it's not attacking. Maybe that's the wheezing. And this is slightly off-topic, but I think that the cannon beetles in Pikmin 2 were a big step down from the original. Does anyone else want to see some  Pikmin 1 enemies like the ACB, Goolix and Puffstool make a comeback in Pikmin 3? [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

:::Speculation Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd.... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::He's not speculating, he's being hopeful that certain enemies will return. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::Meh, I don't like hope either it's annoying... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::::...Need to quote that in various places...{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::::Your welcome... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

any1 got a pic of the ACBL (and/or the lithopods)  shooting a rock?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 23:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This wiki is not just pics!! {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}

 Has anyone noticed that in a new game you could only get an Armored Cannon Beetle Larva in the piklopedia if you kill one that's not buried?--[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 21:33, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Nope, never noticed anything of the sort. --[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 14:16, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

:So yeah, it's true, and the same for Gatling Groinks on platforms.  Also, killing buried ACBLs/platform Groinks doesn't add to your kill total in the Piklopedia.  Slightly related, if you kill a Groink (not on a platform), let it revive and kill it again, you get two kills added to the Piklopedia.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

Also if a buried Armored Cannon Beetle Larva kills pikmin it wont ad how much pikmin it killed in the piklopedia.It will only ad how much a not buried one killed.--[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 15:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

:Man, that sucks, you know how many times I went down to the Glutton's Kitchen! I thought my kill total would be something like 140 but it turns it's only 100! Also, say an Armored Cannon Beetle rock hits an enemy and kills it, does it count as your total because I'm sure it does...--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

::I don't know, that's a good question. I think it should, because there is more danger involved in that than a straight attack. [[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 22:19, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

==Possible Combination with ACB Page?==
Anyone think we should combine the the article with the Armored Cannon Beetle page? I don't think we should since it has its own Piklopedia entry. I'm just curious, if enough people think so, then we could make a subheading on the page stating "Larva" or something like that.[[File:3 Pikmin.png|35px]][[User:Pikmin1254|'''<span style="color:blue">Pikmin</span>''']][[File:P2 Hairy Bulborb Artwork.jpg|30px]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|'''<span style="color:orange">1254</span>''']][[File:Specialpikmin.jpg|35px]]

:...No.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

I was thinking the same thing. The real reason why I made this part of the discussion is just in case someone was thinking of doing that.[[File:3 Pikmin.png|35px]][[User:Pikmin1254|'''<span style="color:blue">Pikmin</span>''']][[File:P2 Hairy Bulborb Artwork.jpg|30px]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|'''<span style="color:orange">1254</span>''']][[File:Specialpikmin.jpg|35px]]

==...what==
Blue/white ACBL? What's this?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:In two player VS mode, on one of those cave stages, there is a blue/white cannon beetle larva. <span style="border:2px outset blue;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

::I'm not convinced. I've played them all multiple times and never seen one. Which stage?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

I played Pikmin all my life and if there was a blue/white one I would of seen it buy now.[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 21:27, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::Greenpickle - I guess I might have just been seeing things; I could have sworn that there were bluish white ones. I've recently played Pikmin 2 and there indeed are no white/blue ACBL.
:::Man at Legs - by* <span style="border:2px outset blue;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:43, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh thats how you spell it.[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 23:32, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blue ninja koopa were you trying to anoy me by correcting my spelling? I can't believe I have to ask you that......[[User:Man-at-Legs888|Man-at-Legs888]] 06:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

:No such thing. Possibly a glitch in the game, or your TV has issues.[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 23:40, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

== Stunning ==

I swear Purple Pikmin can't stun buried Cannon Beetles. Any one else think so? Could be included as trivia. <span style="border:2px dashed #FF0000;background-color:blue">[[File:121.jpg|30px]][[User:Loafy the Breadbug|<span title="come to my awesome userpage!" style = color:orange"> ''Loafy'' </span>]] [[User talk:Loafy the Breadbug|<span title=come!" style = "color:yellow"> ''the Breadbug''</span>]] [[File:121.jpg|30px]]</span>
:Well, I think a lot of enemies can't be stunned while they're in their "sleeping" state, like the ACBL is when it is buried. For instance, [[Emperor Bulblax]]es can't be stunned while underground (although they can be brutally hurt). '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:00, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

:I thought we already had it somewhere.  It's definitely true: go ahead and make the edit. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

==Name???==
This dude is referred to as the Armored Cannon Larva in Pikmin 3. Once we can update all these pages to be up to date with Pikmin 3 and stuffz, we'll have to rename it. But then again, the Red Bulborb is referred to as the "Bulborb" in Pikmin 3, so I dunno.
[[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]])
:It's all a complicated mess. We could use the Pikmin 3 names, but like you said, it can sometimes lead to problems like "Bulborb". Plus there's stuff like Wollywog vs Wollyhop. When the page merge is done, this needs to be discussed between the community as a whole. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:35, 10 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, I get you. Personally, I find the name Armored Cannon '''Beetle'' Larva sorta redundant. So yeah, we'll need to discuss it at a later date. Once the move is done and stuffz. EDIT: I'm so not used to signing on talk pages. XD [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]])

I think we need to leave it as armored cannon beetle larva if we left red bulborb as it is --[[User:Nvortex|Nvortex]] ([[User talk:Nvortex|talk]]) 19:12, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
:It's rough. We should try to always use the most recent US name as the "official" one. But for the case of Bulborbs, we should stick with "Red Bulborb" simply because "Bulborb" is incredibly ambiguous. You can look at an Orange Bulborb and say "This is a Bulborb", and you'd be correct. But you can't say "This is a Red Bulborb". At the very least, we should wait for Pikmin 4 and see if that'll help us decide this deal better. We should see some Red Bulborb action in just a few weeks or months... I hope. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:49, 1 November 2015 (EST)