Editing Talk:Cave

I'm not sure of that. I know that I was able to leave my Pikmin out and go in a cave when I did my no-death run, but that was always right after they brought a treasure to the base. Does anyone know for sure? I can't test it at the moment.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

:I just tried it, actually. Any Pikmin left idle when you enter a cave, no matter how far from the landing site they are, ''will'' return to their Onion safely. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

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Hang on, what? I thought the only place violet candypops disappeared was Emergence Cave. There are plenty of caves with violet candypops in them, and I visited those with a ship full of purples. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:Then change it... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

::I did, it was just re-added by Greenpickle. Pay attention, foo'. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::I was going by what Miles claimed.  I'll have to ask him.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

<pre>[17:09] <Miles> 2 in Emergence Cave 2
[17:09] <Miles> 2 in Hole of Beasts 2
[17:09] <Miles> 1 in Frontier Cavern 1
[17:09] <Miles> 1 in Citadel of Spiders 2
[17:09] <Miles> 1 in Shower Room 2
[17:10] <Greenpickle> ?
[17:10] <Greenpickle> Those are ones that disappear?
[17:10] <Greenpickle> Wait, what?
[17:10] <Greenpickle> '1 in Citadel of Spiders 2 '
[17:10] <Greenpickle> ?
[17:11] <Miles> Unless I'm not remembering correctly, yes... >_>
[17:12] <Greenpickle> But...
[17:13] <Greenpickle> Why two numbers for each?
[17:13] <Greenpickle> oh, sublevel?
[17:13] <Miles> 1 candypop on Citadel of Spiders sublevel 2
[17:13] <Greenpickle> And the limit for all is 20, right?
[17:13] <Miles> Yes.
[17:14] <Miles> Also 20 for the WFG Ivory candypops...</pre>

Yay?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:Okay, I've never noticed that. I think it's worth checking out.... Even still though, that's only five caves, which leaves six with candypops that ''don't'' disappear. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::Never said there were more...{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::No, but the current text implies that a majority of violet candypops disappear. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::And...? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::You're kidding, right?... Why is everyone trying to pull my leg today? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::...I'm confusled... I didn't know Miles could talk...  [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 22:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::...Yeah, it gets you the first time.  Also, JJ, 'trying'?  'Everyone'?  'Leg'?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::Stop it! You're confusing me! I can't detect sarcasm within written text! {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::Neither can Prez. :P But seriously make it CLEAR what your telling us we DO NOT GET IT! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::This page implies something that simply isn't true. I'm amazed that you with your "OMG NO SPECUMALATION MUST BE 100% HARD FACT" attitude aren't tearing up the page by now. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::::You told me not to do that. And I'm so confused I couldn't even tell it was speculation... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 17:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::It's not speculation, but it's not fact either. In fact, it's completely wrong. I would have thought you would have something to say about that. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::::...What is?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::::::...This entire conversation is about one single phrase which I pointed out in the first post up there. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::So why is there the big Miles thing up there? Pointless. And I really only hate speculation, but non-factualness is annoying too... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 22:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Er, the Miles thing is to show he said JJ was wrong, which I thought would end the argument.  You don't believe Miles?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::I was wrong in thinking that Emergence Cave was the only place they disappeared in, but I'm still right in that the number of caves they do disappear in is a minority, which you all, far from disagreeing with, actually admitted. I'm kind of confused as to what everyone's reservations about editing the text are. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::Firstly, I wouldn't consider 5 in 14 a minority.  Secondly, it already says that only 'some' diappear; how would you change it?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::::Five is less than half of 14, which I'm sure you already know, making it a minority as opposed to a majority. Rather than listing caves in which candypops ''do not'' disappear, I think it should list caves in which they ''do'' disappear. If caves in which candypops disappear are the subject, then such caves should be used as the example. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::Why not just make the changes?  I'm still not sure why it matters, but...just...{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::I changed ShadowRaptor's revision, and you undid mine and rewrote it. I'm just making sure everything's fine with this.... {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::My head... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 22:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
I'm not sure, but this is a rather dumb idea of mine. Is it needed or possible to add images of each respective sublevel in a cave for each cave?

Like this, for example: Hole of Beasts

:<nowiki>==Gallery==</nowiki>
:Image:HoleofBeastsSublevel1.png|Sublevel 1
:Image:HoleofBeastsSublevel2.png|Sublevel 2
:Image:HoleofBeastsSublevel3.png|Sublevel 3

etc...

--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


:That's actually a pretty good idea. Maybe we could put the images in the section for each sublevel, though. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}

:I'll try my best to get the textures used for each sublevel of each cave. Those make good maps, although traveling between levels in an emulator is tiresome. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:33, 27 December 2010 (EST)

::I can't. It's ''too'' slow, and the textures aren't ripped correctly. There's got to be another way. Can't someone access the textures from the files? '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:44, 27 December 2010 (EST)

When you say images, do you mean screenshots (overviews, like the two in the [[Dream Den]] walkthrough) or the maps Espyo's going on about?

Espyo: IIRC, they're models, not textures, and sublevels are made up of a number of 'rooms', each with their own model file.  (Each sublevel has a number of associated sets of rooms, and one of these is chosen at random each time.  So, it's going to be tricky and a bit pointless to try to map them, since most vary, and you wouldn't get a very good idea of the scenery/enemies/obstacles/items in them anyway. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:I see. Well, in that case, using drawn maps would be better than ripping textures/models. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:41, 3 January 2011 (EST)

::Well, I meant screenshots, since even though the sublevels change at random times, the objects are always the same. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:::Mm, okay; I think they'd be better alongside the text for that sublevel rather than all separate in a gallery, though.  I'm not sure of the need for an image for every single sublevel in the game, since some are boring or very similar to previous/next ones, but yeah, caves need more images.  I may get around to a few in the next few days, but it's not long until I'm without Wii access for another 10 weeks. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

:So just random sublevels? Or notable ones? In said case, which could be considered as notable. {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}

::Well, just use common sense, I guess.  Ones that are interesting, or hard to describe in words, or just very different. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

==Magnetic field==
This is actually still in the manual; see pages 25 and 26 of the one Linked from [[Pikmin 2]]. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 15:06, 17 November 2011 (EST)
:Correct you are. Even better! I'll change it. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:53, 17 November 2011 (EST)

==Pikmin 2 "last leader" variable==
I'll write this here for safekeeping: the variable that controls what the last leader to enter a sublevel hole was is <code>0x00942A0C</code>. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:56, 7 May 2016 (EDT)