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+==Kinda Scary==
 The Waterwraith is kinda scary, who here agrees with me?
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 :The Waterwraith is kind of scary initially because you don't expect it, and it just drops down out of nowhere and proceeds to crush your Pikmin. Also, yeah, he was talking about the Waterwraith. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
-That and the fact that he shows up on every floor after a certain amount of time has passed and he's invincible to every pikmin except Purple....which can't be brought into the cave and can't be acquired until the boss floor at the bottom....and then he has a warped moaning cry accompanied by the pikmin version of the Jaws theme.....this thing left me scarred and riddled with nightmares for quite some time.
-I think the only thing that did more damage to my psyche as gamer was the Titan Dweevil T_T --[[User:Marx Wraith|Marx Wraith]] 05:49, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 I stil don't get haw water frog reafers to Waterwraith.
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 will it get back on its roller if u laeve it olone to long
-:What? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
+:What? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 He's saying: will it get back on its rollers if you leave it alone to long? [[User:Prof.pikmin|Prof.]] 15:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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 finally, people who agrree with me that thing is sooooo scary!!!, once i saw that freak, i only cared about gettin outta there!!! after i killed it off on the final floor, i tried to see if i could sneek purple pikmin in somehow<span style="border:2px solid #007300;background-color:blue">
-[[User:GoldenJiggies|<span class="plainlink" title="aka GJ"> <span style="color:gold">'''GoldenJiggies's'''</span></span>]][[User talk:GoldenJiggies|<span style = "color:gold">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Image:Ai no Uta.jpeg|100px]]</span>
+[[User:GoldenJiggies|<span class="plainlink" title="aka GJ"> <span style="color:gold">'''GoldenJiggies's'''</span></span>]][[User talk:GoldenJiggies|<span style = "color:gold">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[File:Ai no Uta.jpeg|100px]]</span>
 :Uhh... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
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 It says the Waterwraith may by some kind of "physic phenomenon," but that doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm guessing someone misread the word "psychic," but I can't check the game for myself. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
-:Psychic... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
+:Psychic... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
 ITS BUSTING A WHEELIE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5GyaX27AM [[User:IAMAHIPO ocolor|<span style="color:Black">IAMAHIP<b>O_o</b></span><span style="color:Red">c</span><span style="color:#ddbb00">o</span><span style="color:Blue">l</span><span style="color:Purple">o</span><span style="color:Grey">r</span>]] 07:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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 It can also be a physic phenomenon, Because only purples can anchor it into reality. Another point of interest is this; do you see any vital organs? A "physical phenomenon", indeed! {{User:EvilLouie13/sig.}}
-:Maybe the water has magnetic properties and is held in shape by the (Magnetic) stones and the Purple's Density breaks the water causing a magnetic ripple interfering with the magnetic stones thus destroying the creature... but not likely '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
+:Maybe the water has magnetic properties and is held in shape by the (Magnetic) stones and the Purple's Density breaks the water causing a magnetic ripple interfering with the magnetic stones thus destroying the creature... but not likely '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
 ::Possibly, but then how would you explain it turning purple without the stone rollers? [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]
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 :::His hypothesis is legible; there coulg be minature particles in the waterwraith similar to gluons. {{User:EvilLouie13/sig.}}
-::::I WAS JOKING! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
+::::I WAS JOKING! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
 :::Sorry... {{User:EvilLouie13/sig.}}
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 My theory is on my page. See Pikmin Theories. '''[[User:Ridly|<span style="color:darkBlue;">Ridly</span>]] <small><sup>[[User Talk:Ridly|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Roar!</span>]]</sup></small>''' 17:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 how can they say that " few sightings deep underground" isn't olimar co the oonly ones to be on the planet
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 Well, it's not there anymore. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flF9q2JsQkg Here's a new link.] [[User:Parnifia|Parnifia]] 15:52, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
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+==What are Hit Points==
 ...What are "Hit Points"? [[User:ShadowRaptor101|ShadowRaptor101]] 17:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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 Also, no matter what, the WaterWraith completly ignores Louie and all Pikmin under his command in the New Play Control Version of Pikmin 2 and goes for the captain, going on the infamous Umi~Bozu Theory, as the beast only goes for the Captain, explaining why it chases the Koppaites during the Final battle of Pikmin 3 and the maze. It goes for Brittany first due to acting like a captain, Charlie for being a Captain, then Alph because the Captain usually owns the ship. Also Olimar made it all possible, another reason he is cared for. [[User:Pikifan4|Pikifan4]] ([[User talk:Pikifan4|talk]]) 15:34, 1 February 2016 (EST)
+== created or lured by the ships fear. ==
+I've noticed that the ship appears to be scared of entering the submerged castle due to the water surrounding the cave,
+Could it be possible that the ships fear created or attracted the water wraith?[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 21:45, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
+== Hole of Heroes note ==
+I seem to recall that particular note was referring not to enemies in general, but specifically to boss enemies. I can't find who changed it, but I believe that is why the Toady Bloyster was not included. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 08:44, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
+:According to the history, it [http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Waterwraith&diff=next&oldid=126240 already started as "enemies"], never bosses. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:48, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
+::Was it referring to only bosses? I thought it meant enemies in general. {{User:Mariotime315/sig}} 19:21, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
+:::Really, Espyo? Must've been my imagination- or it was a trivia note on another page I got confused with. And Mariotime, I do think bosses was the intention, but if you add the Toady Bloyster, I could honestly believe that those three are the only enemies in general not in the Hole of Heroes. With the 'not in the Wistful Wild either' thing that discounts the Segmented Crawbster and Titan Dweevil, it probably is true. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 20:33, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
+::::Okay. I always thought it meant enemies in the Wistful Wild ''and'' its caves. I guess either I was confused, or the trivia fact needed to be a bit more specific. What should we do? {{User:Mariotime315/sig}} 22:25, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
+:::::Well, the best option would be to actually write a list of enemies which are absent from the Hole of Heroes, and then see if the list actually produces notable results. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 05:43, 5 November 2016 (EDT)
+Well... [[User:Mariotime315/Archives/Hole of Heroes and Wistful Wild enemies|here]] it is. I was thinking we could get rid of the Hole of Heroes part and just replace it with the Wistful Wild and all of its caves. It was kind of more confusing to say "outside of the Wistful Wild to not appear in the Hole of Heroes" instead of "to not appear in the Wistful Wild or any of its caves." What do you think? {{User:Mariotime315/sig}} 13:16, 6 November 2016 (EST)
+:This sounds like a good idea. We'll change it here, and I'll also check the [[Giant Breadbug]], [[Toady Bloyster]], and [[Hole of Heroes]] pages for this same trivia item, and adjust accordingly. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 19:53, 6 November 2016 (EST)
+== About the Japanese version of Waterwraith Louie's Notes. ==
+About the Japanese version of Waterwraith Louie's Notes.
+I have translated the Japanese version of the Waterwraith recipe into English and am posting it here.
+On the Japanese version, Louie says Waterwraith has yet to be heard of cooked.
+In the Japanese version, this is how he says, "I have yet to hear of this being cooked, and I don't know if this creature really exists." {{unsigned|Tomoes12}}
+== Japanese Name ==
+In my opinion, "アメボウズ" definitely means "Candy Bald Head".
+First, Japanese don't use "雨(rain)" to express stuff's texture, while use "飴(candy)".
+e.g.タマネギを飴色になるまで炒める。(Saute onions until its color turns into candy-brown.)
+Second, "ボウズ" also means bald head, and its main usage today is this one. We Japanese don't visit temple and meet priest or monk so often! --[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 10:12, March 10, 2021 (EST)
+:All right, makes sense. Plus these enemies aren't really related to monks or priests, although they are mysterious. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:02, March 11, 2021 (EST)
+:Actually, come to think of it, the [[Plasm Wraith]]'s name is {{j|アメニュウドウ|Ame Nyuudou}}. Doesn't this mean that the Waterwraith's name is a pun on priests, and the Plasm Wraith is a pun on monks? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:08, March 11, 2021 (EST)
+::In my opinion,
+::*"ボウズ(bouzu)" - Japanese Buddhism priests or monks, their head is bald. Or mainly, Baldy head.
+::*"ニュウドウ(nyudo)" - Japanese Buddhism priests or monks. Or mainly, Baldy yokai(monster). Nyudou yokais tend to be big. "{{j|入道雲|Nyudou Gumo|Nyudo cloud}}" (Cumulonimbus cloud) is named after its huge monster-like shape. --[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 23:13, March 11, 2021 (EST)
+'''Reasons for using "monk" instead of bald head.'''
+While "ボウズ" and "ニュウドウ" are used for bald head most of the times, you need to consider the context in which the words are used. The Waterwraith is an enemy with a black body which appears in a cave submerged underwater, not known to be a hallucination or a real thing. If you read the wikipedia article on the Umibouzu you can tell that this is all a reference to the monster. The article also mentions that an alternate name for them is Uminyuudou. Taking into account that they decided to translate the "ボウズ" and "ニュウドウ" as wraith in both the Waterwraith and Plasm Wraith, this can be taken as another proof that a better translation would have to be in reference to the spirit of folklore instead of a regular bald humanoid. The Japanese name "ヤマトアメビト" could also be another reference to the yokai, Yamato making reference to the way Japan used to be called in ancient times. --[[User:Nvortex|Nvortex]] ([[User talk:Nvortex|talk]]) 18:53, March 12, 2021 (EST)
+:Uhm, above that is what all I know, and its naming is way too complicated. I will entrust final decision to other skillful editors. -[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 21:14, March 12, 2021 (EST)
+It does first appear by falling, right? Something made of water that falls from above. Sounds like rain to me. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 07:51, March 19, 2021 (EDT)
+== Bro, top 1 moment pikmin became a horror game ==
+I was hoping the waterwraith to come back… and it did! I’m really impressed about that, with the Engulfed castle too, Good job Nintendo