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'''This is an archive of past policy proposals. Please do not edit this page.''' | '''This is an archive of past policy proposals. Please do not edit this page.''' | ||
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==Headers — Styling or Not?== | ==Headers — Styling or Not?== | ||
While I know that there has already been a proposal about this, I deem it necessary to re-evaluate the issue. For one, the issue was not thoroughly discussed; for another, no real '''reasons''' were provided to back up the claim. | While I know that there has already been a proposal about this, I deem it necessary to re-evaluate the issue. For one, the issue was not thoroughly discussed; for another, no real '''reasons''' were provided to back up the claim. | ||
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IMO, they should be short in both the edit page and as seen on the saved page, with a link to the user's user page or talk at the very least, very few, small images, preferably not animated, and placed on the same line as the comment, not on a new line below it. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> | IMO, they should be short in both the edit page and as seen on the saved page, with a link to the user's user page or talk at the very least, very few, small images, preferably not animated, and placed on the same line as the comment, not on a new line below it. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> | ||
:For signatures, it's better if they are no longer than one line in length, contain a link to the | :For signatures, it's better if they are no longer than one line in length, contain a link to the user page or talk page and images must not be larger than two lines of text, and animation should be avoided. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] | ||
==Perspective in articles== | ==Perspective in articles== | ||
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==Headers== | ==Headers== | ||
Should be completely devoid of any formatting, IMO. No links, italics or the like - on articles. That is, it makes sense to have, say, section headers link to their articles at [[Pikipedia:featured | Should be completely devoid of any formatting, IMO. No links, italics or the like - on articles. That is, it makes sense to have, say, section headers link to their articles at [[Pikipedia:featured article/nominations]]. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> | ||
:There could be other examples where it is necessary, but they would be noted in the future if they are found. But otherwise, I say yes. If you want to link, use [[template:main]]. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:54, 27 October 2010 (EDT) | :There could be other examples where it is necessary, but they would be noted in the future if they are found. But otherwise, I say yes. If you want to link, use [[template:main]]. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:54, 27 October 2010 (EDT) | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
* <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> | * <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> | ||
* {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} I also think that social content should be sent to the forums. All of it, even; if it's not about ''improving'' the acticle, then it sholdn't belong on a talkpage. The [[ | * {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} I also think that social content should be sent to the forums. All of it, even; if it's not about ''improving'' the acticle, then it sholdn't belong on a talkpage. The [[Pikipedia:Chat|Chat]] is also a good place where one might want to go to. 19:36, 13 December 2011 (EST) | ||
* {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}} | * {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}} | ||
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:;Proper nouns: | :;Proper nouns: | ||
:''Title case''. [[ | :''Title case''. [[wikipedia:Proper noun|Proper nouns]] are to always be written in title case. It should be clear what things are given proper names, like [[area]]s, [[caves]], and characters. | ||
:;Species: | :;Species: | ||
:''Title case''. This applies to [[Pikmin family|Pikmin type]] names and [[enemy]] species names (e.g. "Yellow Pikmin", "Beady Long Legs"). These names are of the most glaring examples of incosistency in the series. Although in the real world, species names are commonly written in lowercase, fans of the series are accostumed to seeing them written in title case; this is more accentuated because of [[ | :''Title case''. This applies to [[Pikmin family|Pikmin type]] names and [[enemy]] species names (e.g. "Yellow Pikmin", "Beady Long Legs"). These names are of the most glaring examples of incosistency in the series. Although in the real world, species names are commonly written in lowercase, fans of the series are accostumed to seeing them written in title case; this is more accentuated because of [[bosses]], in which their uniqueness almost makes it look like their species name is their proper name. | ||
:;Families: | :;Families: | ||
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:;Objects: | :;Objects: | ||
:''Lowercase''. As written above, the name of most plain objects is sometimes written in title case because they are commonly named in a title setting. For objects that are common throughout a game and do not have a major impact on gameplay, their names should be in lowercase. This mirrors the way it is in the real world – humans don't capitalize the word "[[ | :''Lowercase''. As written above, the name of most plain objects is sometimes written in title case because they are commonly named in a title setting. For objects that are common throughout a game and do not have a major impact on gameplay, their names should be in lowercase. This mirrors the way it is in the real world – humans don't capitalize the word "[[wikipedia:Egg|egg]]" or [[wikipedia:Gate|gate]]" for no reason. This includes, but is not limited to: [[hazards]], [[obstacles]], [[spray]]s, [[nectar egg]]s, [[nectar]], [[rubble]], [[bomb rock]]s and [[geyser]]s. | ||
:;Important objects: | :;Important objects: | ||
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::Well like the game (notably Pikmin 3) addresses them as proper nouns. Even then, do we keep them lowercase? [[File:AeroBlaze777sig.png|150px|link=User:AeroBlaze777]] <sup> [[User talk:AeroBlaze777|Talk]] </sup> 16:34, 19 December 2014 (EST) | ::Well like the game (notably Pikmin 3) addresses them as proper nouns. Even then, do we keep them lowercase? [[File:AeroBlaze777sig.png|150px|link=User:AeroBlaze777]] <sup> [[User talk:AeroBlaze777|Talk]] </sup> 16:34, 19 December 2014 (EST) | ||
:::That's just it, the game addresses them as proper nouns only because it'd be weird without. Imagine locking-on to a gate and having the text "fortified wall" appear on the screen. Seems lazy and ugly, right? So they have to make it title case in order to make it look good. However, just because text is written in title case doesn't mean that's the "official" capitalization. And because we don't know the official capitalization, we should go with common sense. And common sense kinda says that "fortified walls" aren't humans, pets, locations, or anything of the sort. So they hardly deserve a title case capitalization. That's the point I'm trying to get across. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:46, 19 December 2014 (EST) | :::That's just it, the game addresses them as proper nouns only because it'd be weird without. Imagine locking-on to a gate and having the text "fortified wall" appear on the screen. Seems lazy and ugly, right? So they have to make it title case in order to make it look good. However, just because text is written in title case doesn't mean that's the "official" capitalization. And because we don't know the official capitalization, we should go with common sense. And common sense kinda says that "fortified walls" aren't humans, pets, locations, or anything of the sort. So they hardly deserve a title case capitalization. That's the point I'm trying to get across. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:46, 19 December 2014 (EST) | ||
== Nomination for patroller: Midnight blue == | |||
:''No opposers'' | |||
=== Support === | |||
* I am nominating [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] for the position of patroller, with their approval. Midnight blue may not have a large number of edits, but those edits are high-quality and show an understanding of how the wiki works. During the ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'' documentation phase they helped a lot with article creation and organization, and with ''Pikmin 4'' coming soon, it would be useful to have another staff member able to help with organizing the many new articles that will be created. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:52, April 24, 2023 (EDT) | |||
=== Comments === | |||
* I would like to see more of her around the wiki if she becomes a staff member. I don't mean editing every day or anything like that, but enough presence to make it clear the wiki is being watched. Midnight, if you agree please let me know, and I'd like to add you on board! — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:07, May 8, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Nomination for administrator: Soprano == | |||
:''No opposers or comments'' | |||
=== Support === | |||
* OK, I think it's time to nominate myself for administrator. I've been a patroller for over a year now, and I have used the abilities that role gives to stop vandalism a few times. With ''Pikmin 4'' coming soon, it would be useful for the wiki to have someone with the ability to protect pages and make interface edits at times of the day where Espyo's not online, in case those things need to be done quickly. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:37, May 9, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Changing the poll process to be more like featured articles == | |||
Every 2 months, Pikipedia's current featured article and poll are changed. In practice, the way these 2 things work is basically the same: a staff member chooses from the various proposed options, seeks input from others if necessary, and then when the time comes, updates the templates and pages. Officially though, the process for choosing a poll and a featured article are very different. | |||
For featured articles, the process is described very simply on [[Pikipedia:Featured article|the page about them]]. There is a [[Pikipedia:Featured article/nominations|nominations page]] where people can nominate articles, and can support, oppose, or comment on articles that people have nominated. This page is divided into 2 sections, articles ready to be featured, and articles that still need work, and this status is independent of the votes and comments, and it's up to a staff member to move articles between the sections based on how they look. Staff members can pick articles to feature from either section, and when doing so, the article's nomination is moved to an [[Pikipedia:Featured article/past nominations|archive page]]. There is also an archive page for [[Pikipedia:Featured article/rejected nominations|rejected nominations]], but this hasn't been used in years. | |||
For polls, the process is described in a detailed [[Pikipedia:Poll policy|poll policy]]. Polls are suggested and voted on in a very similar way to featured articles, on the [[Pikipedia:Poll/ideas|ideas page]], but from here the process is different. After the poll has been proposed for 1 month, if someone else has voted on it and if there are more Support votes than Oppose votes, the poll idea is moved to the [[Pikipedia:Poll/future polls|future polls]] page, otherwise it might be moved to the [[Pikipedia:Poll/archived rejected ideas|rejected polls]] archive. In practice it doesn't work that way; poll ideas are moved to the other pages based on whether there's agreement that the poll can be asked in its current form, not just based on the vote count. When picking the next poll, staff members can only pick from the future polls page, and upon doing so, the poll idea is moved to an [[Pikipedia:Poll/archived accepted ideas|archive page]]. 2 months later when the next poll is picked, the results are added to a [[Pikipedia:Poll/Older polls|poll results]] page. | |||
I think that the same system should be used for polls and featured articles. The featured article system is simpler and more reflects the way things are actually done, so I propose that [[Pikipedia:Poll policy]] should be deleted, with the "What makes a good poll?" section moved to [[Pikipedia:Poll]], which would be significantly rewritten. [[Pikipedia:Poll/future polls]] should be merged into [[Pikipedia:Poll/ideas]] using the same 2-section structure as the featured article nominations page. Finally, I think that several pages in this area should be renamed for consistency – [[Pikipedia:Featured article/past nominations]] to [[Pikipedia:Featured article/archived nominations]], [[Pikipedia:Featured article/rejected nominations]] to [[Pikipedia:Featured article/archived rejected nominations]], [[Pikipedia:Poll/archived accepted ideas]] to [[Pikipedia:Poll/archived ideas]], [[Pikipedia:Poll/Older polls]] to [[Pikipedia:Poll/older polls]], and potentially also [[Pikipedia:Front page update]] to [[Pikipedia:Main Page update]]. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:39, March 29, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:''No opposers or comments'' | |||
=== Support === | |||
* I didn't even notice that poll proposals were divided in two pages until now, so yeah this makes complete sense. — [[User:GGabryy|'''GGabryy''']]<sub>[[User talk:GGabryy|''(talk)'']]</sub> 09:43, March 29, 2024 (CET) | |||
* Agreed. The current system is mostly the result of technical debt. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:25, March 29, 2024 (EDT) | |||
=Not implemented= | =Not implemented= | ||
== Nomination for patroller: KamekSans == | |||
:''No opposers'' | |||
=== Support === | |||
* I am nominating [[User:KamekSans|KamekSans]] for the position of patroller, with his approval. He has done a fantastic job in the last few days documenting new ''Pikmin 4'' prerelease information and information about ''Pikmin 1+2'', and has also done various other documentation projects in the past, following the policies and guidelines well. It would help the wiki to have another person with patroller rights during the ''Pikmin 4'' documentation period, and KamekSans is the best person for this position. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:08, June 24, 2023 (EDT) | |||
* Agreed. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:51, June 24, 2023 (EDT) | |||
=== Comments === | |||
* Note: KamekSans has since declined the offer to be a patroller, saying he's fine with staying as a regular editor. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:27, August 4, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Nomination for patroller: Bossclips == | |||
:''No opposers or comments'' | |||
=== Support === | |||
* I'm nominating [[User:Bossclips|Bossclips]] to be a patroller, with his approval. During this busy ''Pikmin 4'' documentation period, Pikipedia really needs more staff, and Bossclips is a great editor who has documented lots of things in the game and has also undone various problematic edits. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:33, July 27, 2023 (EDT) | |||