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(Gathered Pikmin 1 values.)
(That's all! (Except for the Titan Dweevil, that is.))
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I'll try to keep a table of all of the enemies' "[[Template talk:Infobox enemy|max kills]]" here, and then decide what to do with them. An item in this list must only be added if thorough testing has been made. The enemy must attack several times, and in several different circumstances, in order to make sure the data here is absolutely correct, for '''all''' scenarios.
These tables contain the Pikmin cap for all enemy attacks, as discussed [[Template talk:Infobox enemy|here]]. What happens is that while most attacks kill or affect all Pikmin that it comes into contact with, others have a cap. For instance, a Spotty Bulbear can chomp a large number of Pikmin, but no more than 5 will be killed.


For completion's sake, non-fatal attacks that are relevant will also be added (e.g. Puffstool's spore spray). Feel free to <s>edit it</s> err... to bring your additions to the talk page.
To obtain these values, 100 Pikmin were submitted to the attacks, as close as possible to one another, so that the most amount of Pikmin possible would collide with the attack. Several tests were made for each attack, just to be extra sure. For completion's sake, non-fatal attacks that are relevant will also be added (e.g. Puffstool's spore spray). Besides the number cap of Pikmin, there are also the following special cases:


*'''?''': Info missing.
*'''?''': Info missing.
*'''Undefined''': ...it's undefined. The enemy can kill several Pikmin with an attack, but not ''all'' Pikmin in the group. In other words, some Pikmin that clearly should've died are left alive. This indicates that there is a cap to the number of Pikmin that can die in a single attack. However, that number either changes with unknown circumstances, is random, or is otherwise very hard to find.
*'''Unknown''': ...it's unknown. The enemy can kill several Pikmin with an attack, but not ''all'' Pikmin in the group. In other words, some Pikmin that clearly should've died are left alive. This indicates that there is a cap to the number of Pikmin that can die in a single attack. However, that number either changes with unknown circumstances, is random, or is otherwise very hard to find.
*'''100''': Supposedly there is no limit. Any Pikmin that gets caught by that attack will suffer from it.
*'''100''': Supposedly there is no limit. Any Pikmin that gets caught by that attack will suffer from it.


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!Max
!Max
|-
|-
|Armored Cannon Beetle
|[[Armored Cannon Beetle]]
|With a single rock: '''Undefined'''
|With a single rock: '''Unknown''' (never killed the entire group, random values)
|-
|-
|Beady Long Legs
|[[Beady Long Legs]]
|With a single stomp: '''Undefined''' (looks like 100)
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (feet too small to hit all Pikmin, but presumed 100)
|-
|-
|Breadbug
|[[Breadbug]]
|With a burrow when a spoil is brought to its den: '''100'''
|With a burrow when a spoil is brought to its den: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Burrowing Snagret
|[[Burrowing Snagret]]
|With a single beak lunge: '''1'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''3'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''3'''
|-
|-
|Dwarf Bulbear
|[[Dwarf Bulbear]]
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Dwarf Bulborb
|[[Dwarf Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Emperor Bulblax
|[[Emperor Bulblax]]
|With a single tongue swipe: '''100'''<br/>With a single small stomp: '''Undefined'''<br/>With a single long jump: '''Undefined'''
|With a single tongue swipe: '''100'''<br/>With a single small stomp: '''Unknown''' (never killed the entire group, random values)<br/>With a single long jump: '''Unknown''' (never killed the entire group, random values)
|-
|-
|Fiery Blowhog
|[[Fiery Blowhog]]
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|-
|-
|Goolix
|[[Goolix]]
|With its watery body: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|With its watery body: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|-
|-
|Mamuta
|[[Mamuta]]
|Burrows with a single pound: '''Undefined''' (100?)
|Burrows with a single pound: '''Unknown''' (could never get it to burrow the entire army)
|-
|-
|Pearly Clamclamp
|[[Pearly Clamclamp]]
|With a single closure: '''Undefined''' (Test with Dolphin)
|With a single closure: '''Unknown''' (impossible to throw the entire army before closure, not even with frameskip; presumed 100)
|-
|-
|Puffstool
|[[Puffstool]]
|Possessions with a single spray of spores: '''100'''
|Possessions with a single spray of spores: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Puffy Blowhog
|[[Puffy Blowhog]]
|Knock downs with its wind: '''100'''
|Knock downs with its wind: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Male Sheargrub
|[[Male Sheargrub]]
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Red Bulborb
|[[Red Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''3'''
|With a single bite: '''3'''
|-
|-
|Shearwig
|[[Shearwig]]
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Smoky Progg
|[[Smoky Progg]]
|With its smoke: '''100'''
|With its smoke: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Spotty Bulbear
|[[Spotty Bulbear]]
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|-
|-
|Swooping Snitchbug
|[[Swooping Snitchbug]]
|Grabs in a single swoop: '''2'''<br/>Maximum grabs before throwing: '''2'''
|Grabs in a single swoop: '''2'''<br/>Maximum grabs before throwing: '''2'''
|-
|-
|Water Dumple
|[[Water Dumple]]
|With a single bite: '''2'''
|With a single bite: '''2'''
|-
|-
|Wollywog
|[[Wollywog]]
|With a single stomp: '''Undefined''' (100?)
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (can't make it stomp everyone at once, but presumed 100)
|-
|-
|Yellow Wollywog
|[[Yellow Wollywog]]
|With a single stomp: '''Undefined''' (100?)
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (can't make it stomp everyone at once, but presumed 100)
|}
|}


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!Max
!Max
|-
|-
|Red Bulborb
|[[Red Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|-
|-
|Hairy Bulborb
|[[Hairy Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|-
|-
|Orange Bulborb
|[[Orange Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|-
|-
|Dwarf Bulbear
|[[Dwarf Bulbear]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Spotty Bulbear
|[[Spotty Bulbear]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''5'''
|-
|-
|Fiery Bulblax
|[[Fiery Bulblax]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''<br/>With the fire on its back: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|With a single bite: '''5'''<br/>With the fire on its back: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|-
|-
|Emperor Bulblax
|[[Emperor Bulblax]]
|With a single tongue swipe: '''?'''
|With a single tongue swipe: '''9'''<br/>With a single hop: '''Unknown''' (looks like 100, but never got it to kill them all)
|-
|-
|Empress Bulblax
|[[Empress Bulblax]]
|With a single roll: '''100'''
|With a single roll: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Bulborb Larva
|[[Bulborb Larva]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Water Dumple
|[[Water Dumple]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''2'''
|-
|-
|Bulbmin
|[[Bulbmin]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''3'''
|-
|-
|Breadbug
|[[Breadbug]]
|With a burrow when a spoil is brought to its den: '''100'''
|With a burrow when a spoil is brought to its den: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Giant Breadbug
|[[Giant Breadbug]]
|Same as Breadbug
|Same as Breadbug
|-
|-
|Dwarf Red Bulborb
|[[Dwarf Red Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Dwarf Orange Bulborb
|[[Dwarf Orange Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Snow Bulborb
|[[Snow Bulborb]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Fiery Blowhog
|[[Fiery Blowhog]]
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|-
|-
|Watery Blowhog
|[[Watery Blowhog]]
|With its water: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|With its water: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|-
|-
|Puffy Blowhog
|[[Puffy Blowhog]]
|Knock downs with its wind: '''100'''
|Knock downs with its wind: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Withering Blowhog
|[[Withering Blowhog]]
|Withers with its wind: '''100'''
|Withers with its wind: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Fiery Dweevil
|[[Fiery Dweevil]]
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|With its fire: '''100''' (non-Reds)
|-
|-
|Anode Dweevil
|[[Anode Dweevil]]
|With its electricity: '''100''' (non-Yellows)
|With its electricity: '''100''' (non-Yellows)
|-
|-
|Caustic Dweevil
|[[Caustic Dweevil]]
|With its water: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|With its water: '''100''' (non-Blues)
|-
|-
|Munge Dweevil
|[[Munge Dweevil]]
|With its poison: '''100''' (non-Whites)
|With its poison: '''100''' (non-Whites)
|-
|-
|Volatile Dweevil
|[[Volatile Dweevil]]
|Explosion: '''?'''
|Explosion: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Titan Dweevil
|[[Titan Dweevil]]
|'''?''' (needs expansion)
|With a single flame: '''100''' (non-Reds)<br/>With a single ball of spark: '''100''' (non-Yellows)<br/>With a single stream of poison: '''100''' (non-Whites)<br/>With a single drop of water: '''Unknown''' (probably no way to know, as the drops aren't big enough to hit the whole army... maybe (been a while since I fought it); presumed 100)<br/>Knockdowns with a single claw swipe: '''?'''
|-
|-
|Beady Long Legs
|[[Beady Long Legs]]
|With a single stomp: '''?'''
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (feet too small to hit the whole group, might be 100)
|-
|-
|Man-at-Legs
|[[Man-at-Legs]]
|With its shots: '''100'''
|With a single shot: '''Unknown''' (shots too small to hit a Pikmin, also it looks like the game randomly picks whether the Pikmin dies or not)
|-
|-
|Raging Long Legs
|[[Raging Long Legs]]
|With a single stomp: '''?'''
|With a single stomp: '''100''' (confirmed with Dolphin)
|-
|-
|Burrowing Snagret
|[[Burrowing Snagret]]
|With a single beak lunge: '''?'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''?'''
|With a single beak bite: '''1'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''3'''
|-
|-
|Pileated Snagret
|[[Pileated Snagret]]
|With a single beak lunge: '''?'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''?'''
|With a single beak bite: '''1'''<br/>Until it pauses to eat them: '''3'''
|-
|-
|Armored Cannon Beetle Larva
|[[Armored Cannon Beetle Larva]]
|With a single rock: '''?'''
|With a single rock: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Decorated Cannon Beetle
|[[Decorated Cannon Beetle]]
|With a single rock: '''?'''
|With a single rock: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Segmented Crawbster
|[[Segmented Crawbster]]
|With a single roll: '''?'''
|With a single roll: '''100'''<br/>Knockdowns with a single claw swipe: '''Unknown''' (can't find a value, presumed 100, but no claw swipe ever hits them all)
|-
|-
|Hermit Crawmad
|[[Hermit Crawmad]]
|With a single lunge: '''?'''
|With a single grab: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Male Sheargrub
|[[Male Sheargrub]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Shearwig
|[[Shearwig]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Doodlebug
|[[Doodlebug]]
|With its poison: '''100''' (non-Whites)
|With its poison: '''100''' (non-Whites)
|-
|-
|Cloaking Burrow-nit
|[[Cloaking Burrow-nit]]
|With a single lunge: '''?'''
|With a single pierce: '''1'''
|-
|-
|Careening Dirigibug
|[[Careening Dirigibug]]
|Explosion: '''?'''
|Explosion: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Swooping Snitchbug
|[[Swooping Snitchbug]]
|Grabs in a single swoop: '''?'''<br/>Maximum grabs before throwing: '''?'''
|Grabs in a single swoop: '''2'''<br/>Maximum grabs before throwing: '''2'''
|-
|-
|Anode Beetle
|[[Anode Beetle]]
|With a single shock: '''?'''
|With a single shock: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Lesser Spotted Jellyfloat
|[[Lesser Spotted Jellyfloat]]
|With a single slurp: '''?'''
|With a single slurp: '''10'''
|-
|-
|Greater Spotted Jellyfloat
|[[Greater Spotted Jellyfloat]]
|With a single slurp: '''?'''
|With a single slurp: '''20'''
|-
|-
|Toady Bloyster
|[[Toady Bloyster]]
|With a single sweep: '''?'''
|With a single sweep: '''7''' (one per "tongue")
|-
|-
|Ranging Bloyster
|[[Ranging Bloyster]]
|With a single sweep: '''?'''
|With a single sweep: '''7''' (one per "tongue")
|-
|-
|Yellow Wollywog
|[[Yellow Wollywog]]
|With a single stomp: '''?'''
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (can't make it stomp everyone at once, but presumed 100)
|-
|-
|Wollywog
|[[Wollywog]]
|With a single stomp: '''?'''
|With a single stomp: '''Unknown''' (can't make it stomp everyone at once, but presumed 100)
|-
|-
|Creeping Chrysanthemum
|[[Creeping Chrysanthemum]]
|With a single bite: '''?'''
|With a single bite: '''2'''
|-
|-
|Gatling Groink
|[[Gatling Groink]]
|With a single mortar: '''?'''
|With a single mortar: '''Unknown''' (can't make one shot shoot the entire group, also shots seem to kill Pikmin only randomly)
|-
|-
|Mamuta
|[[Mamuta]]
|Burrows with a single pound: '''?'''
|Burrows with a single pound: '''100'''
|-
|-
|Waterwraith
|[[Waterwraith]]
|With its rollers: '''?'''
|With its rollers: '''100'''
|}
|}
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