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1) When editing your user page, try to learn to use the preview button (located to the right of the "save page" button) so you don't flood the recent changes. There wasn't much activity the day you made these edits, but six edits to one page is quite unnecessary nonetheless. | 1) When editing your user page, try to learn to use the preview button (located to the right of the "save page" button) so you don't flood the recent changes. There wasn't much activity the day you made these edits, but six edits to one page is quite unnecessary nonetheless. | ||
2) Try to refrain from removing text from user talk pages ([http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3APikmin_Commander&diff=57161&oldid=57152]) and keep the personal attacks to a minimum. If you have a problem with my words, feel free to slash out (<s>example</s>; be sure to use <nowiki><s></nowiki> brackets) whatever I wrote, or reply to me with information that lets me know how my words were wrong. Thanks, <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 03:50, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | 2) Try to refrain from removing text from user talk pages ([http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3APikmin_Commander&diff=57161&oldid=57152]) and keep the personal attacks to a minimum. If you have a problem with my words, feel free to slash out (<s>example</s>; be sure to use <nowiki><s></nowiki> brackets) whatever I wrote, or reply to me with information that lets me know how my words were wrong. Thanks, <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 03:50, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:1. Do not reprimand me ever again. The fact that you believe six edits is unacceptable when those edits were actually spaced quite far apart and done over the course of ''two'' days by my clock shows that you are incapable of looking at anything but the surface of an issue, and you have no business telling people what not to do when you don't even know exactly what has been done, especially when it is [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:109.192.132.129&diff=prev&oldid=57124 something] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Burgeoning_Spiderwort_mold&diff=prev&oldid=56878 you] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:We_aren%27t_a_strategy_guide.&diff=prev&oldid=56175 do] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:We_aren%27t_a_strategy_guide.&diff=prev&oldid=56174 yourself]. | :1. Do not reprimand me ever again. The fact that you believe six edits is unacceptable when those edits were actually spaced quite far apart and done over the course of ''two'' days by my clock shows that you are incapable of looking at anything but the surface of an issue, and you have no business telling people what not to do when you don't even know exactly what has been done, especially when it is [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:109.192.132.129&diff=prev&oldid=57124 something] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Burgeoning_Spiderwort_mold&diff=prev&oldid=56878 you] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:We_aren%27t_a_strategy_guide.&diff=prev&oldid=56175 do] [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:We_aren%27t_a_strategy_guide.&diff=prev&oldid=56174 yourself]. | ||
:2. You will never convince anyone here that your comment was made with good intentions. You were incorrect in identifying Dweevil's expressions as "poor grammar," and the fact that you bothered saying anything, despite the astronomical unlikelihood that it would actually be taken to heart by the writer, makes it pretty clear that unless you're a hopeless optimist, your intention was none other than to annoy. You're not being a Grammar Nazi, you are just trolling, and although you may not recognize it, an admin's duties extend beyond banning spammers to preventing conflict between users, which justifies the removal of blatantly malicious comments. And one more note on that: when you respond to someone's insult of your comment with an insult of their person, you instantly lose whatever moral highground you were attempting to gain. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 04:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | :2. You will never convince anyone here that your comment was made with good intentions. You were incorrect in identifying Dweevil's expressions as "poor grammar," and the fact that you bothered saying anything, despite the astronomical unlikelihood that it would actually be taken to heart by the writer, makes it pretty clear that unless you're a hopeless optimist, your intention was none other than to annoy. You're not being a Grammar Nazi, you are just trolling, and although you may not recognize it, an admin's duties extend beyond banning spammers to preventing conflict between users, which justifies the removal of blatantly malicious comments. And one more note on that: when you respond to someone's insult of your comment with an insult of their person, you instantly lose whatever moral highground you were attempting to gain. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 04:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::1) When did I ever imply that I am the perfect editor? Did I mention anything about following ''my'' example? Do I somehow ''not'' need to use the preview button just because I was reminding you about its existence and purpose? To be honest, should the need arise, I ''will'' and ''can'' reprimand you for whatever you've done, though next time, I will pay more attention to the complexity of your action(s). | ::1) When did I ever imply that I am the perfect editor? Did I mention anything about following ''my'' example? Do I somehow ''not'' need to use the preview button just because I was reminding you about its existence and purpose? To be honest, should the need arise, I ''will'' and ''can'' reprimand you for whatever you've done, though next time, I will pay more attention to the complexity of your action(s). | ||
::2) Grammar seems to be a huge problem with a majority of Pikipedia's regular users. There isn't much harm in it, but when editing an article, one should try to make sure that the words used are able to be comprehended by other users. Based on my experience, users with poor grammar edit mainspace the way they edit talk pages, in which case their edit is (usually) immediately reverted or fixed. That explains my concern. My intentions were only to correct Volatile Dweevil's mistake, something I do on the occasion; if you're implying that I've suddenly selected him as a "target" to pester and annoy, then I'm afraid you're wrong. Additionally, if you believe that everything I type is meant to "offend" other users, then you are gravely mistaken. What's laudable is that you're enough of a pessimist to believe that Volatile Dweevil will undoubtedly interpret my comment as a violent attack on his person instead of as advice. Be that as it may, you ''do'' have a point: it was not entirely necessary. Your definition of trolling is humorously inaccurate and loose. I was not "trolling" Volatile Dweevil, though the situation may contradict this, but I ''was'' spontaneously being a Grammar Nazi. In response to your note: Actually, no, nothing really justifies the removal of any kind of text from a discussion/talk page. Like I just told you, the better option is to slash the comment that sparked conflict and/or to inform the user who made the comment that it was unnecessary and it behooves that user not to perform such an action in the future. You again misinterpret my intentions; I was giving you advice on editing and handling situations that start altercations, and was in no way "insulting you", and even if that were true, my goal would not have been to achieve any "moral highground", it would have been to prove my point in a detestable manner. If you're worried about insults, all I ask is that you keep the spouted falsehoods to a minimum while we have this dispute, and you won't have any problems from me with them. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 06:54, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::2) Grammar seems to be a huge problem with a majority of Pikipedia's regular users. There isn't much harm in it, but when editing an article, one should try to make sure that the words used are able to be comprehended by other users. Based on my experience, users with poor grammar edit mainspace the way they edit talk pages, in which case their edit is (usually) immediately reverted or fixed. That explains my concern. My intentions were only to correct Volatile Dweevil's mistake, something I do on the occasion; if you're implying that I've suddenly selected him as a "target" to pester and annoy, then I'm afraid you're wrong. Additionally, if you believe that everything I type is meant to "offend" other users, then you are gravely mistaken. What's laudable is that you're enough of a pessimist to believe that Volatile Dweevil will undoubtedly interpret my comment as a violent attack on his person instead of as advice. Be that as it may, you ''do'' have a point: it was not entirely necessary. Your definition of trolling is humorously inaccurate and loose. I was not "trolling" Volatile Dweevil, though the situation may contradict this, but I ''was'' spontaneously being a Grammar Nazi. In response to your note: Actually, no, nothing really justifies the removal of any kind of text from a discussion/talk page. Like I just told you, the better option is to slash the comment that sparked conflict and/or to inform the user who made the comment that it was unnecessary and it behooves that user not to perform such an action in the future. You again misinterpret my intentions; I was giving you advice on editing and handling situations that start altercations, and was in no way "insulting you", and even if that were true, my goal would not have been to achieve any "moral highground", it would have been to prove my point in a detestable manner. If you're worried about insults, all I ask is that you keep the spouted falsehoods to a minimum while we have this dispute, and you won't have any problems from me with them. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 06:54, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::BNK, I've asked before, and while it's not ''that'' important, could you please space your comments out a line apart from those above to unclutter the edit window a bit? And use double-spacing instead of <nowiki><br></nowiki> tags? Thanks. | |||
:::I don't need to go back over what JJ said about his edits hardly being any sort of flooding - but even if they were all six of them made within minutes of each other, the kind of changes he's making aren't things you catch in a preview, they're thoughts that come to you after some thought. And certainly when you're adding a lot of stuff, you're fine to save a few times to avoid losing it all, especially if it's just a user page. If the number of entries this adds to the RC bothers you, maybe you'd be interested in [http://greenpickle.co.cc/MediaWiki_recent_changes_namespace_toggler a script I wrote] (which doesn't work well with the enhanced RC, but the fact you see multiple edits means you're not using that). | |||
:::I don't get the impression that 'a majority of Pikipedia's regular users' have a 'huge problem' with grammar. If someone needs to improve because it's harming articles, tell them that; don't pick on one specific instance on a talk page - it just looks like you're trying to come out looking superior. I do agree that you were wrong in removing the comment, though, JJ. That rarely helps, whatever the motives. | |||
:::''What's laudable is that you're enough of a pessimist to believe that Volatile Dweevil will undoubtedly interpret my comment as a violent attack on his person instead of as advice.'' Actually, I think he called it an 'astronomical unlikelihood'. | |||
:::''my goal [...] would have been to prove my point in a detestable manner'' - wait, what?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} | |||