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Hello! I am Blue Ninjakoopa for those who do not know me, and I'm a fan of Pikmin. I'm at most gaming Wikis contributing as much as I can, so I thought I should drop by here to help out.
Hello! I am Blue Ninjakoopa for those who do not know me, and I'm a fan of Pikmin. I'm at most gaming Wikis contributing as much as I can, so I thought I should drop by here to help out.


Ok, first of all, I think that each enemy page should have the official artwork in the infobox, rather than the screenshots, which should be put somewhere else in the article or in a gallery. Also, <nowiki>[[Gallery of enemies|wth]]</nowiki>? That's kinda weird... but I must abide by the rules if I strive for adminship, this being the only thing I seek to change.
Ok, first of all, I think that each enemy page should have the official artwork in the infobox, rather than the screenshots, which should be put somewhere else in the article or in a gallery. Also, <nowiki>[[Gallery of enemies|wth]]</nowiki>? That's kinda weird... but I must abide by the rules if I strive for adminship, this being the only thing I seek to change.


I made the mistake of editing the pages without asking the community. What do you all think of my idea? Official art in the infoboxes, or screenshots, which can be described using thmbnail captions? {{User:Blue Ninjakoopa/Sig}} 23:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I made the mistake of editing the pages without asking the community. What do you all think of my idea? Official art in the infoboxes, or screenshots, which can be described using thmbnail captions? {{User:Blue Ninjakoopa/sig}} 23:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:You put the forum under the wrong watercooler. The [[User:MarioGalaxy2433g5|<span style="color:silver">MarioGalaxy2433g5</span>]] {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy2433g5|<span style="color:aqua">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/MarioGalaxy2433g5|contribs]]/[[Special:Log/MarioGalaxy2433g5|Logs]]} 23:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:You put the forum under the wrong watercooler. The [[User:MarioGalaxy2433g5|<span style="color:silver">MarioGalaxy2433g5</span>]] {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy2433g5|<span style="color:aqua">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/MarioGalaxy2433g5|contribs]]/[[Special:Log/MarioGalaxy2433g5|Logs]]} 23:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


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For going all out against me, leaving me with absolutely nothing to do around here. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
For going all out against me, leaving me with absolutely nothing to do around here. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


:Nothing to do?  There's loads to do: see [[pikmin:current projects]], or just look around for badly written pages (of which there are a lot).{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
:Nothing to do?  There's loads to do: see [[pikipedia:current projects]], or just look around for badly written pages (of which there are a lot).{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}


::I lack things to do here too, but I stick around if only to annoy Green and Prez. {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
::I lack things to do here too, but I stick around if only to annoy Green and Prez. {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
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::*What article? The images ''were'' the article. You said it was weird, we agreed, and now you're complaining that the content is lost. Or, ''were'' rather, since as I'm sure you now know, Green kept all the images in the talk page immediately after deleting the article.
::*What article? The images ''were'' the article. You said it was weird, we agreed, and now you're complaining that the content is lost. Or, ''were'' rather, since as I'm sure you now know, Green kept all the images in the talk page immediately after deleting the article.
::*Indeed it is, and one I pretty much never use, so it means something when I do. You tried to help by proposing an idea, we ''disagreed'' with that idea, and you overreacted by saying how we SHOT YOU DOWN and LEFT YOU WITH NOTHING TO DO. Rejection can be tough - ask Hipo, or hell, ask me - but it's not like we're trying to SHUN you from our EXCLUSIVE GROUP just because we didn't like one of your ideas. Maybe you could even reopen the discussion in a couple of months when we have some new faces around, since nothing really stays closed.
::*Indeed it is, and one I pretty much never use, so it means something when I do. You tried to help by proposing an idea, we ''disagreed'' with that idea, and you overreacted by saying how we SHOT YOU DOWN and LEFT YOU WITH NOTHING TO DO. Rejection can be tough - ask Hipo, or hell, ask me - but it's not like we're trying to SHUN you from our EXCLUSIVE GROUP just because we didn't like one of your ideas. Maybe you could even reopen the discussion in a couple of months when we have some new faces around, since nothing really stays closed.
::*I think you missed my point with that comment. You can't walk onto a wiki and start complaining that there's nothing for you to do there. Had someone invited you, you might say "Hey, why'd you invite me? There's nothing to do here," but that's not the case. That is, I'm not saying that Pikipedia is LOL SRY INVITE ONLY. You can read, participate in discussions on talk pages or the forum, or maybe even ''find'' something to do by checking Current Projects or even just browsing articles for grammar and spelling mistakes. A number of articles need cleaning up, and we're still looking for somebody to translate [[:Image:B13.JPG|this card]]. If there truly were nothing to do, then Recent Changes would be empty, but hey look, it's not.
::*I think you missed my point with that comment. You can't walk onto a wiki and start complaining that there's nothing for you to do there. Had someone invited you, you might say "Hey, why'd you invite me? There's nothing to do here," but that's not the case. That is, I'm not saying that Pikipedia is LOL SRY INVITE ONLY. You can read, participate in discussions on talk pages or the forum, or maybe even ''find'' something to do by checking Current Projects or even just browsing articles for grammar and spelling mistakes. A number of articles need cleaning up, and we're still looking for somebody to translate [[:File:Ujadani E-Card.jpg|this card]]. If there truly were nothing to do, then Recent Changes would be empty, but hey look, it's not.
::Blue, I don't doubt that you came here with the intention of helping out, but you made one proposition and every post after that was complaining about how we CRUELLY REJECTED YOU and how we're all trying to DRIVE YOU OUT, and you seem more content just trying to play the victim and demonize us than actually being productive. Like I said, you're welcome to stay if you can manage to do something, ''anything'' other than that, but at current you're just being annoying. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 17:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::Blue, I don't doubt that you came here with the intention of helping out, but you made one proposition and every post after that was complaining about how we CRUELLY REJECTED YOU and how we're all trying to DRIVE YOU OUT, and you seem more content just trying to play the victim and demonize us than actually being productive. Like I said, you're welcome to stay if you can manage to do something, ''anything'' other than that, but at current you're just being annoying. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 17:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, bullets.
:::Yeah, bullets.
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Ok good.Just checking[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 16:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok good.Just checking[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 16:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


:<nowiki>:3</nowiki> Had me going for a while Blue - I actually thought you believed half of what you were saying - but it's pretty hard to miss the conflict created by your claim that you wouldn't have cared if I [[w:c:StarFox:Talk:Spyborg|swore on the Star Fox wiki]]. Well played little man, we should do this again some time. In the meantime, why don't you get to work on those things I mentioned to prove that you didn't just come here to troll.
:<nowiki>:3</nowiki> Had me going for a while Blue - I actually thought you believed half of what you were saying - but it's pretty hard to miss the conflict created by your claim that you wouldn't have cared if I swore on the Star Fox wiki. Well played little man, we should do this again some time. In the meantime, why don't you get to work on those things I mentioned to prove that you didn't just come here to troll.


:In b4 "topic revival." Just trying to make up for my week-long absence. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 21:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:In b4 "topic revival." Just trying to make up for my week-long absence. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 21:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::"Little man"? lol, and you call me a troll. You're a bit confused. I didn't really enjoy arguing with you at all. Not because it ruined our friendship; because it was boring, and this forum was going to turn into some giant personal attack bundled up on one page. I really wanted to help out my good buddy, Crys, but I'm here trying to get this fact into your thick skull. Don't you get it? You know that I won the argument when you started using swear words in all of your sentences. Signs of anger usually mean that I've broken you. "We should do this again sometime" <-- Trolling. You shouldn't encourage arguments at all, let alone keep them up. Since you've failed to accept my sincere apology, I guess we shall remain enemies. I've got work at Smash Wiki to do, and I'll contribute here later. :D ROFLCOPTER, "little man". Hey, tell you what, I'll just come back here to laugh upon your stupidity on a rainy day. Surely this can all be put behind us. <span style="border:2px outset green;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif</span> 13:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::You were gone? And we're all buddies again... yay! {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
:::Nah, he thinks I'm a little man. XD <span style="border:2px outset green;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif</span> 13:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::you didn't notice he did nothing for a week--[[Image:Large pixal snowy bulborb.PNG|35px]][[User:snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:blue">Snowy </span></b>]][[User talk:Snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:green">bulborb </span></b>]]


::You were gone. And we're all buddies again... yay! {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
::::No {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
 
I didn't know ether.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 16:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:Sorry JJ... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
 
Well, I tried, but I guess I can't wiggle my way out of this one. Blue's just too smart for me - he's discovered my master plan. You see, first, I join a bunch of wikis needing attention, and make lots of really good edits, so good that the local bureaucrats offer to promote me to admin. I act all humble and say they're doing a good job as is and that I wouldn't be of any more help than I am already, just to make them think it's really their idea. Then, out of nowhere (around Christmas coincidentally), I stop editing ALL of them. I wait for about a month, choose one to be my "favorite," and return to it. I know it's only a matter of time before the lonely 'crats track me down and ask me where I've been. That's where the real fun begins.
 
I get a bunch of my buddies from the wiki I'm on and start undoing all of my target's edits. When they ask why, we come up with some BS excuse about how the pages looked better before their edits, and since everyone knows making pages look good is ''not'' among an actual editor's priorities, and bait a huge overreaction out of them. Where my genius really shines through is what I do after: I troll the user, not by spewing out line after line of nonsense and fallacious arguments, but by arguing with ''logic'' and citing ''evidence'' to back my claims. Normally this sparks a civilized debate after which the target accepts his loss and finds other ways to help the wiki so as not to make himself appear a sore loser, thus ensnaring another contributor! But Blue, seeing through this ploy, responded to my posts by making as little sense as possible, splitting lots of hairs about the difference between virtual and verbal communication, calling me unfriendly names, and using gross exaggerations like "...in all your sentences."
 
My motive? Not only does it attract new users, but it makes me look smarter! As if I didn't earn enough respect by making legitimate contributions and participating in discussions, I can show everyone that I can use big words and have the mind of an intellectual. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids! (Everyone laughs, then fade to black and role credits) {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 06:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:The story at the beginning was as much of a bullshit excuse as you claim your friends to be. To clarify a few things: 1) Internet sarcasm is fail, dude. 2)You didn't make any personal attacks, so I guess I have broken you... or you might be regaining your ****, whichever one it is. Oh, and LOL. "Logic". Please, when you speak with logic is the day pigss can talk and fly. Evidence... I have evidence that you've resorted to both flaming ''and'' trolling, but I guess you're still in the right, aren't you Mr. Perfect (or Ms.; you've never told me your true gender o.o)? Were we supposed to find the "ending" humorous? No, you aren't popular at all. Try coming over and starting shit at SmashWiki; I guarantee you'll be humiliated. The admins (and some of the users such as myself) would tear you to shreds. Small reply is small, but it's only because you make so many damn red herrings. :( Please stay on topic. I'm your target, you don't have to impress the community by acting like a dumbass and trying to role-play Scooby Doo on the internet. If it helps, you should know the word "red herring", but not know what it means. :\ Think about it: if you hadn't insulted me in the first place, we wouldn't be arguing. <span style="border:2px outset green;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif</span> 11:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::You are trying to prove Jimbo wrong instead of yourself right. You just say "I have evidence", rather than use any of this evidence. You countered yourself by saying "Internet sarcasm is fail, dude.", then using sarcasm in the later statement "I guess you're still in the right, aren't you Mr. Perfect". It seemed like you were using gender as an insult. And lastly, you are insulting Jimbo instead of trying to show that ... what were you originally arguing about, that Enemy Pages should use concept art instead of screenshots?  OK, neither of you are still arguing about whatever you were originally arguing about, but but the rest does still apply to just you, Blue Ninjakoopa. Of course, the simple way out of this argument is to stop feeding the ones you call trolls, but should you argue again, in a more purposeful debate than this or not, I hope you do improve in your arguing ability. --[[User:Yoshord|Yoshord]] 16:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::lol, low level arguing and hypocrisy is what I do when I'm not trying. T_T I knew one of Jambo's butt-buddies wood show up sooner or later. So, you're going to double-team me now? This gets better and better... <span style="border:2px outset green;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif</span> 16:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::::I could also find things against JimboJambo if you want, Ninjakoopa. Like JimboJambo  called you "little man", which was as low, unjustified, unprovable and as prejudice-showing as "or perhaps 'Mrs.'" that you said. The post I attacked would have been attacked by me regardless of poster. It just so happened that you were the one who made the poor arguments. --[[User:Yoshord|Yoshord]] 16:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I refuse to attack you for the following reasons: 1) You're being kind of neutral here 2) This is between me and Jambo. I don't know why he'd call for help, but it's none of my concern. <span style="border:2px outset green;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif</span> 18:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::Yoshord doesn't know JJ, AFAIK.  (S)He just saw the argument and gave the unbiased side of it. Also, I can't quite tell if you're failing at arguments on purpose, to see the sort of reactions it provokes, Blue, but some of this page has been quite interesting to read. Anyway, I'm reverting it, mostly on that basis, but locking it so it doesn't continue.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
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