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{{redirects|Ship|other uses|ship (disambiguation)}}
{{redirects|Ship|other uses|ship (disambiguation)}}


The '''[[Hocotate]] ship''' ({{j|ドルフィン初号機|Dorufin Shogou Ki|S.S. Dolphin first model}}) (usually called simply the '''ship''') refers to Olimar's new rocket in ''[[Pikmin 2]]''. It is [[The President|the President's]] ship and the first ship [[Hocotate Freight]] had, being part of the company since it's very beginnings. Unlike the [[S.S. Dolphin]], the Hocotate ship is capable of speech, (replacing most of [[Olimar]]'s in-game speech), and takes on the role of giving advice throughout the game. Olimar makes his opinion of its personality being pompous and quirky known in his [[Olimar's notes|notes]]. It sports two cockpits and detachable pod, where its speaker is located. Once the [[President]]'s debt is repaid, the ship is upgraded in appearance and turns gold. The ship is presumably destroyed by the [[Quaggled Mireclops]] in ''Pikmin 3''.
The '''[[Hocotate]] ship''' ({{j|ドルフィン初号機|Dorufin Shogou Ki|S.S. Dolphin first model}}) (usually called simply the '''ship''') refers to Olimar's new rocket in ''[[Pikmin 2]]''. It is [[the President]]'s ship and the first ship [[Hocotate Freight]] had, being part of the company since its very beginnings. Unlike the [[S.S. Dolphin]], the Hocotate ship is capable of speech, (replacing most of [[Olimar]]'s in-game speech), and takes on the role of giving advice throughout the game. Olimar makes his opinion of its personality being pompous and quirky known in his [[Olimar's notes|notes]]. It sports two cockpits and a detachable pod, where its speaker is located. Once the [[President]]'s debt is repaid, the ship is upgraded in appearance and turns gold. The ship is presumably destroyed by the [[Quaggled Mireclops]] in ''Pikmin 3''.


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The official name of this ship is quite the conundrum. While simply called "the ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Insect Condo/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Insect Condo]]}}, "my ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Diet Doomer/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Diet Doomer]]}}, "our ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Toxic Toadstool/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Toxic Toadstool]]}} or "the Hocotate ship"{{cite quote|Curse that Hocotate ship. It may once have been a top-of-the-line vessel, but it's now an insult to my piloting. I can't wait to pay off that debt and get back in my beloved S.S. Dolphin. But that means I need to find something really valuable before I return home...|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's Log (Exploration Notes)|his log]] in the American version of ''[[Pikmin 3]]''}} in the English versions of {{p2}} and {{p3}}, in the Japanese games the ship is in fact referred to as "S.S. Dolphin first model". Since the [[S.S. Dolphin|original S.S. Dolphin]] ({{j|ドルフィン号|Dorufin gou}} and this ship ({{j|ドルフィン初号機|Dorufin shogou ki}}) both have "Dolphin" in their Japanese name, a number of errors arise. Possibly attributed to different translators unfamiliar with ''Pikmin'' or simple oversights, the Hocotate ship is sometimes called "the S.S. Dolphin" when it should be "the Hocotate ship" or "the ship".
The official name of this ship is quite the conundrum. While simply called "the ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Insect Condo/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Insect Condo]]}}, "my ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Diet Doomer/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Diet Doomer]]}}, "our ship"{{cite quote|{{Notes:Toxic Toadstool/journal}}|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's journal]] for the [[Toxic Toadstool]]}} or "the Hocotate ship"{{cite quote|Curse that Hocotate ship. It may once have been a top-of-the-line vessel, but it's now an insult to my piloting. I can't wait to pay off that debt and get back in my beloved S.S. Dolphin. But that means I need to find something really valuable before I return home...|Captain Olimar|[[Olimar's Log (Exploration Notes)|his log]] in the American version of ''[[Pikmin 3]]''}} in the English versions of {{p2}} and {{p3}}, in the Japanese games the ship is in fact referred to as "S.S. Dolphin first model". Since the [[S.S. Dolphin|original S.S. Dolphin]] ({{j|ドルフィン号|Dorufin gou}} and this ship ({{j|ドルフィン初号機|Dorufin shogou ki}}) both have "Dolphin" in their Japanese name, a number of errors arise. Possibly attributed to different translators unfamiliar with ''Pikmin'' or simple oversights, the Hocotate ship is sometimes called "the S.S. Dolphin" when it should be "the Hocotate ship" or "the ship".


For example, in the ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U'' trophy, it's stated that Olimar boards "the S.S. Dolphin" for his Final Smash, however he is in fact boarding the Hocotate ship.  
For example, in the ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U'' trophy, it's stated that Olimar boards "the S.S. Dolphin" for his Final Smash, however he is in fact boarding the Hocotate ship.
 
An interesting possible oversight is found in ''Pikmin 3'': in the [[Secret File]]s Olimar states that he is the captain of the S.S. Dolphin – normally players would assume that he is talking about the original S.S. Dolphin from the first game, however knowing this information it becomes apparent that he could in fact be talking about this ship. This explains why in Louie's secret file he presents himself as a crew member of the S.S. Dolphin. It makes more sense to assume that Olimar is talking about being captain of the Dolphin he is currently piloting and not the one that was sold and is no longer his, and for Louie to consider himself a crew member of the only Dolphin he has boarded. However if this is true, ''Pikmin 3'' would be the first time the Hocotate ship is referred to as "S.S. Dolphin" by the characters, mainly Olimar, possibly meaning that the way they refer to this ship was retconned in ''Pikmin 3''. If this is the case, the mistake in the Secret Files comes from the localization's side. If they were in fact talking about the original S.S. Dolphin then the mistake comes from the Japanese version, given that Louie has never boarded the rocket from the first game in the series.


An interesting possible oversight is found in ''Pikmin 3'': in the [[Secret Files]] Olimar states that he is the captain of the S.S. Dolphin – normally players would assume that he is talking about the original S.S. Dolphin from the first game, however knowing this information it becomes apparent that he could in fact be talking about this ship. This explains why in Louie's secret file he presents himself as a crew member of the S.S. Dolphin. It makes more sense to assume that Olimar is talking about being captain of the Dolphin he is currently piloting and not the one that was sold and is no longer his, and for Louie to consider himself a crew member of the only Dolphin he has boarded. However if this is true, {{p3}} would be the first time the Hocotate ship is referred to as "S.S. Dolphin" by the characters, mainly Olimar, possibly meaning that the way they refer to this ship was retconned in Pikmin 3. If this is the case, the mistake in the [[Secret Files]] comes from the localization's side. If they do were in fact talking about the original S.S. Dolphin then the mistake comes from the Japanese version, given that Louie has never boarded ''Pikmin 1'''s S.S. Dolphin.
There are other times when the ship is referred to in ''Pikmin 2'', but none of those end up giving it a proper name. On the manual, it is referred to as "the old ship"{{cite quote|When I told him about the fate of his ship, he dropped the curious souvenir he was holding. The old ship's sensors went wild!|the President|the backstory, on the instruction manual of ''Pikmin 2''}}, "your ship"{{cite quote|There are no purple or white Onions. These Pikmin are housed inside your ship.|the instruction manual}}, "the ship"{{cite quote|To order your Pikmin to carry a treasure back to the ship, throw your Pikmin at it or command them to move into it with the C Stick.}}, etc. On the [[Menu#Pause|pause menu]] in ''Pikmin 2'', the numbers of stored [[White Pikmin|White]] and [[Purple Pikmin]] are listed in a section called "Rocket". In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', a non-[[canon]] game, the trophy for the rocket calls it "Hocotate Ship", although the "S" is uppercase.
There are other times when the ship is referred to in ''Pikmin 2'', but none of those end up giving it a proper name. On the manual, it is referred to as "the old ship"{{cite quote|When I told him about the fate of his ship, he dropped the curious souvenir he was holding. The old ship's sensors went wild!|the President|the backstory, on the instruction manual of ''Pikmin 2''}}, "your ship"{{cite quote|There are no purple or white Onions. These Pikmin are housed inside your ship.|the instruction manual}}, "the ship"{{cite quote|To order your Pikmin to carry a treasure back to the ship, throw your Pikmin at it or command them to move into it with the C Stick.}}, etc. On the [[Menu#Pause|pause menu]] in ''Pikmin 2'', the numbers of stored [[White Pikmin|White]] and [[Purple Pikmin]] are listed in a section called "Rocket". In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', a non-[[canon]] game, the trophy for the rocket calls it "Hocotate Ship", although the "S" is uppercase.


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