User:Espyo/extinction

I'll use this table to figure out, once and for all, what happens in every extinction-related scenario, in every game.

Scenario		Result
Action	In other areas	Pikmin	Pikmin 2	Pikmin 3
Outside, lose your last Red.	No Reds.	No immediate action. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.	No immediate action. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.
	Buried Reds.	No immediate action. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, nothing happened.	No immediate action. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, nothing happened.
Outside, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.	Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Extinction log entry. Next day, all Onions spat a seed.	Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.
	Buried Pikmin.	Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Extinction log entry. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds.	Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.
Outside, turn your last Red into a Yellow.	No Reds.	No immediate action. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.	N/A
	Buried Reds.	No immediate action. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in area with buried Reds, nothing happened.	N/A
Sunset, lose your last Red.	No Reds.	Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.	Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.
	Buried Reds.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in area with buried Reds, nothing happened.
Sunset, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.	Liftoff with abandonment. No extinction log entry. Next day, all Onions spat a seed.	Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.
	Buried Pikmin.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.
In cave, lose only the Pikmin you brought.		N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment.	N/A
In cave, lose your last Red.	No Reds.	N/A	No immediate action. After leaving cave, Red Onion spat a seed.	N/A
	Buried Reds.	N/A	No immediate action. After leaving cave, Red Onion spat a seed.	N/A
In cave, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.	N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment. Outside, extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.	N/A
	Buried Pikmin.	N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment. Outside, extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.	N/A
Outside, 99 Yellows + 1 Red in the area, swap your last Red for a Yellow.	No Reds.		N/A
	Buried Reds.		N/A

Loose notes

What a mess this is...

Well, nothing happened then. The Onion will only eject a seed 1) the day after the extinction 2) if there are no Pikmin of that type planted somewhere on the area
2016-07-28 20:58:42	@Espyo	right
2016-07-28 20:58:45	@Espyo	that's good info to add
2016-07-28 20:59:30	Marty2000	For Pikmin 2, entering a cave and leaving it is considered as "a new day" (it's the same behaviour as P1, except that you can enter and leave the cave to have an Onion eject a seed, instead of ending the day)
2016-07-28 21:02:07	@Espyo	right
2016-07-28 21:20:41	Scruffy	So in /Pikmin/, there's an extinction cutscene only if you begin a day an area with no Pikmin of one type and there are no Pikmin buried there?
2016-07-28 21:24:38	Marty2000	Yes
2016-07-28 21:26:21	Scruffy	Cool, so that means it may not necessarily be an extinction if Pikmin are buried in a different area, but the game treats it as an extinction

<Marty2000> Espyo: "Outside, 99 Yellows + 1 Red in the area, swap your last Red for a Yellow." In P1, if you land in the same area, the red will appear in the Onion
<Marty2000> Same in P3 (tested yesterday)
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<Marty2000> I have a single Yellow Pikmin awaiting its death and a White Pikmin ready to bring a corpse to the Red Onion
<Marty2000> by bringing a corpse to an Onion, the Onion will eject seeds
<Marty2000> it's only possible if the Onion ejects seeds
<Marty2000> A Mamuta/Snitchbug can't bury 100 Pikmin, only 99, but the Onion can make the 100th
<Marty2000> Ok, no Yellow Pikmin left, 100 Red Pikmin buried.
<Marty2000> The Yellow Onion ejected a seed!
<Marty2000> it didn't appear IN the Onion
<Marty2000> like in the other games...
<Marty2000> One of the buried Pikmin gets sent back to its Onion, I suppose

The game removes the buried Pikmin farthest from the Yellow Onion.