User:Espyo/extinction

I'll use this table to figure out, once and for all, what happens in every extinction-related scenario, in every game.

Scenario		Result
Action	In other areas	Pikmin	Pikmin 2	Pikmin 3
Outside, lose your last Red.	No Reds.		No immediate action. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.
	Buried Reds.		No immediate action. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, nothing happened.
Outside, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.		Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.
	Buried Pikmin.		Pikmin extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.
Outside, turn your last Red into a Yellow.	No Reds.		N/A
	Buried Reds.		N/A
Sunset, lose your last Red.	No Reds.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, Red Onion spat a seed.
	Buried Reds.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, in area without buried Reds, Red Onion spat a seed. Next day, in area with buried Reds, nothing happened.
Sunset, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.
	Buried Pikmin.		Liftoff with abandonment. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.
In cave, lose only the Pikmin you brought.		N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment.	N/A
In cave, lose your last Red.	No Reds.	N/A	No immediate action. After leaving cave, Red Onion spat a seed.	N/A
	Buried Reds.	N/A	No immediate action. After leaving cave, Red Onion spat a seed.	N/A
In cave, lose your last Pikmin.	No Pikmin.	N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment. Outside, extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't.	N/A
	Buried Pikmin.	N/A	Extinction cutscene. Forced cave abandonment. Outside, extinction cutscene. Sad liftoff. Next day, in area without buried Reds, all Onions spat a seed. Ship didn't. Next day, in an area with buried Reds, only the Yellow and Blue Onions spat seeds. Ship didn't.	N/A
Outside, 99 Yellows + 1 Red in the area, swap your last Red for a Yellow.	No Reds.		N/A
	Buried Reds.		N/A

Loose notes

What a mess this is...

Well, nothing happened then. The Onion will only eject a seed 1) the day after the extinction 2) if there are no Pikmin of that type planted somewhere on the area
2016-07-28 20:58:42	@Espyo	right
2016-07-28 20:58:45	@Espyo	that's good info to add
2016-07-28 20:59:30	Marty2000	For Pikmin 2, entering a cave and leaving it is considered as "a new day" (it's the same behaviour as P1, except that you can enter and leave the cave to have an Onion eject a seed, instead of ending the day)
2016-07-28 21:02:07	@Espyo	right
2016-07-28 21:20:41	Scruffy	So in /Pikmin/, there's an extinction cutscene only if you begin a day an area with no Pikmin of one type and there are no Pikmin buried there?
2016-07-28 21:24:38	Marty2000	Yes
2016-07-28 21:26:21	Scruffy	Cool, so that means it may not necessarily be an extinction if Pikmin are buried in a different area, but the game treats it as an extinction

<Marty2000> Espyo: "Outside, 99 Yellows + 1 Red in the area, swap your last Red for a Yellow." In P1, if you land in the same area, the red will appear in the Onion
<Marty2000> Same in P3 (tested yesterday)
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<Marty2000> I have a single Yellow Pikmin awaiting its death and a White Pikmin ready to bring a corpse to the Red Onion
<Marty2000> by bringing a corpse to an Onion, the Onion will eject seeds
<Marty2000> it's only possible if the Onion ejects seeds
<Marty2000> A Mamuta/Snitchbug can't bury 100 Pikmin, only 99, but the Onion can make the 100th
<Marty2000> Ok, no Yellow Pikmin left, 100 Red Pikmin buried.
<Marty2000> The Yellow Onion ejected a seed!
<Marty2000> it didn't appear IN the Onion
<Marty2000> like in the other games...
<Marty2000> One of the buried Pikmin gets sent back to its Onion, I suppose

The game removes the buried Pikmin farthest from the Yellow Onion.