Editing Talk:Burgeoning Spiderwort

Hey can someone find a better picture of the creature?

I don't think so...I found it by Google searching. I doubt that you ''might'' be able to find another one easily without figuring out how to take a screenshot. --[[User:The Pikmin God|The Pikmin God]] 11:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

What? There is no plant behind the ship. The only thing there are eggs!

I think spiderwort is from harry potter or something.

but it is not a enemy

:Er, no, it's a plant... {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

how did we get this things name? {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}

:I believe it's in the instruction manual. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::You touch it (with a captain) and it appears in the enemy log... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

what the %@#$... {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}

:Ya'Know when the day is done push the L trigger. On the map. Helooo? Anybody home? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

::Rocky has good cause for confusion. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::Thank You. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

::::The Burgeoning Spiderwort doesn't appear in the Piklopedia.... {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::Oh... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

::::::Hah, don't worry about it. I actually wasn't totally sure when you first mentioned it. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::::So, where does the name come from anyway? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

::::::::I believe it's in the instruction manual. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

== To do answers: ==

1: It takes 1:07 for the berries to regrow in Pikmin 3.
2:The Pikmin do not get tired and will idle near the plant until the berries grow again.
http://www.auplod.com/u/opulda57102.png  ([[User talk:CyborgKing0|talk]]) 03:52, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
:Ok, now we just need the timing for Pikmin 2. It would probably be best to check if all types of Spiderworts have the same interval. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:13, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
:The only one that's different is the one in the huge area behind the cinderblock that blew up. You should be the one to check the Pikmin 2 one. http://www.auplod.com/u/opulda57102.png  ([[User talk:CyborgKing0|talk]]) 02:42, 7 July 2015 (EDT)

== ==
*in Pikmin 2 the pikmin don't get tiered of picking the berries {{unsigned|Fun4Joe}}

== Pikmin 2 regrow time ==
I tried to figure out how long berries take to regrow, since the time felt random to players. You could take one berry and have it only grow back after a couple of minutes, and you could completely harvest the plant and have another full batch ready after just 10 seconds. Then I figured that a global timer must be constantly ticking down, and when it reaches 0, it makes all Spiderworts regrow their berries; other players thought of this too. This too proved to not be the case, since different plants regrew their berries at different times, and even the same plant could regrow at different times.

Then, I learned of <code>/user/Abe/item/plantParms.txt</code>, which controls some things about the Spiderworts. I even edited the file to confirm that it is used. The two most notable values are {p003} 実をつけるまでの時間 (time to bear fruit) and {p004} 実再生時間 (fruit life time). Editing the latter seemed to do nothing throughout all of my tests, but the other value definitely seemed to affect how often the plants regrew their berries. That number still didn't seem right, since over several tests, I've had the plants regrow anywhere between 125 and 155 seconds after the previous regeneration. Maybe the time it took was 120 seconds plus a random amount? I tried several tests, but it didn't seem like it. I even thought that {p004} had something to do with it, but it didn't. Then I noticed one thing: in the tests where I let my Pikmin pummel away at all of the berries, they took longer to regrow.

So with that, I got to a plant, knocked off one berry, saved a state, and then tried different things:

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Scenario || Under attack for these many frames || Recharged on frame || Difference between base test || Difference / attack ratio
|-
! Base test &ndash; left to regrow uninterrupted
| 0 || 8612 || N/A || N/A
|-
! 1 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 2687 || 10548 || 1936 || 0.7205061407
|-
! 2 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 2302 || 10260 || 1648 || 0.7158992181
|-
! 3 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 1529 || 10045 || 1433 || 0.9372138653
|-
! 4 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 1160 || 9380 || 768 || 0.6620689655
|-
! Many Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 110 || 8646 || 34 || 0.3090909091
|}

So in conclusion: the base time is definitely 120 seconds, and it increases the longer the Pikmin have been attacking the plant for. I can't find a good ratio of extra time over attack duration, but that's probably because of the intricacies of Pikmin attacks in general. The frame values are estimate, since I couldn't realistically go frame-by-frame until I found the exact one, but they're fairly close. The case with several Pikmin had a really small sample so I think it should be taken with a grain of salt, but it still confirms the theory that Pikmin attacks make it take longer. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:28, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

== Species under trivia? ==

I think there's a case to be made to add the species of berry this plant is based on to the Trivia section. I currently believe it is based on the Red Currant, an upright-growth shrub with bright red, perfectly round berries, the seedlings of which may grow small bunches of berries compared to the more bountiful crop of a mature specimen. I believe this also explains the mold which grows on the spiderwort, which bears resemblance to the powdery-mildew causing species Podosphaera mors-uvae, a parasite which grows a gray patch over foliage and berries. I noticed the similarities when a friend showed me a cooking video that showed what a red currant was, as I, living in the USA, had been unfamiliar with the fruit. Thoughts? [[User:Amnesiacjournal|Amnesiacjournal]] ([[User talk:Amnesiacjournal|talk]]) 02:05, February 12, 2023 (EST)

:That would make an interesting trivia point. {{User:Cheepy/sig}}

:Yeah, seems good to me. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 06:00, February 13, 2023 (EST)