Talk:Burgeoning Spiderwort

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Hey can someone find a better picture of the creature?

I don't think so...I found it by Google searching. I doubt that you might be able to find another one easily without figuring out how to take a screenshot. --The Pikmin God 11:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

What? There is no plant behind the ship. The only thing there are eggs!

I think spiderwort is from harry potter or something.

but it is not a enemy

Er, no, it's a plant... —Jimbo Jambo

how did we get this things name? I am rocky0718 and i PWN

I believe it's in the instruction manual. —Jimbo Jambo
You touch it (with a captain) and it appears in the enemy log... ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~

what the %@#$... I am rocky0718 and i PWN

Ya'Know when the day is done push the L trigger. On the map. Helooo? Anybody home? ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~
Rocky has good cause for confusion. —Jimbo Jambo
Thank You. ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~
The Burgeoning Spiderwort doesn't appear in the Piklopedia.... —Jimbo Jambo
Oh... ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~
Hah, don't worry about it. I actually wasn't totally sure when you first mentioned it. —Jimbo Jambo
So, where does the name come from anyway? ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~
I believe it's in the instruction manual. —Jimbo Jambo

To do answers:[edit]

1: It takes 1:07 for the berries to regrow in Pikmin 3. 2:The Pikmin do not get tired and will idle near the plant until the berries grow again. opulda57102.png (talk) 03:52, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

Ok, now we just need the timing for Pikmin 2. It would probably be best to check if all types of Spiderworts have the same interval. — {EspyoT} 10:13, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
The only one that's different is the one in the huge area behind the cinderblock that blew up. You should be the one to check the Pikmin 2 one. opulda57102.png (talk) 02:42, 7 July 2015 (EDT)

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  • in Pikmin 2 the pikmin don't get tiered of picking the berries The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fun4Joe • (talk) • (contribs)

Pikmin 2 regrow time[edit]

I tried to figure out how long berries take to regrow, since the time felt random to players. You could take one berry and have it only grow back after a couple of minutes, and you could completely harvest the plant and have another full batch ready after just 10 seconds. Then I figured that a global timer must be constantly ticking down, and when it reaches 0, it makes all Spiderworts regrow their berries; other players thought of this too. This too proved to not be the case, since different plants regrew their berries at different times, and even the same plant could regrow at different times.

Then, I learned of /user/Abe/item/plantParms.txt, which controls some things about the Spiderworts. I even edited the file to confirm that it is used. The two most notable values are {p003} 実をつけるまでの時間 (time to bear fruit) and {p004} 実再生時間 (fruit life time). Editing the latter seemed to do nothing throughout all of my tests, but the other value definitely seemed to affect how often the plants regrew their berries. That number still didn't seem right, since over several tests, I've had the plants regrow anywhere between 125 and 155 seconds after the previous regeneration. Maybe the time it took was 120 seconds plus a random amount? I tried several tests, but it didn't seem like it. I even thought that {p004} had something to do with it, but it didn't. Then I noticed one thing: in the tests where I let my Pikmin pummel away at all of the berries, they took longer to regrow.

So with that, I got to a plant, knocked off one berry, saved a state, and then tried different things:

Scenario Under attack for these many frames Recharged on frame Difference between base test Difference / attack ratio
Base test – left to regrow uninterrupted 0 8612 N/A N/A
1 Purple Pikmin attacking it 2687 10548 1936 0.7205061407
2 Purple Pikmin attacking it 2302 10260 1648 0.7158992181
3 Purple Pikmin attacking it 1529 10045 1433 0.9372138653
4 Purple Pikmin attacking it 1160 9380 768 0.6620689655
Many Purple Pikmin attacking it 110 8646 34 0.3090909091

So in conclusion: the base time is definitely 120 seconds, and it increases the longer the Pikmin have been attacking the plant for. I can't find a good ratio of extra time over attack duration, but that's probably because of the intricacies of Pikmin attacks in general. The frame values are estimate, since I couldn't realistically go frame-by-frame until I found the exact one, but they're fairly close. The case with several Pikmin had a really small sample so I think it should be taken with a grain of salt, but it still confirms the theory that Pikmin attacks make it take longer. — {EspyoT} 14:28, May 18, 2019 (EDT)