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Research on how long P2 berries take to regrow.
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(Research on how long P2 berries take to regrow.)
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*in Pikmin 2 the pikmin don't get tiered of picking the berries {{unsigned|Fun4Joe}}
*in Pikmin 2 the pikmin don't get tiered of picking the berries {{unsigned|Fun4Joe}}
== Pikmin 2 regrow time ==
I tried to figure out how long berries take to regrow, since the time felt random to players. You could take one berry and have it only grow back after a couple of minutes, and you could completely harvest the plant and have another full batch ready after just 10 seconds. Then I figured that a global timer must be constantly ticking down, and when it reaches 0, it makes all Spiderworts regrow their berries; other players thought of this too. This too proved to not be the case, since different plants regrew their berries at different times, and even the same plant could regrow at different times.
Then, I learned of <code>/user/Abe/item/plantParms.txt</code>, which controls some things about the Spiderworts. I even edited the file to confirm that it is used. The two most notable values are {p003} 実をつけるまでの時間 (time to bear fruit) and {p004} 実再生時間 (fruit life time). Editing the latter seemed to do nothing throughout all of my tests, but the other value definitely seemed to affect how often the plants regrew their berries. That number still didn't seem right, since over several tests, I've had the plants regrow anywhere between 125 and 155 seconds after the previous regeneration. Maybe the time it took was 120 seconds plus a random amount? I tried several tests, but it didn't seem like it. I even thought that {p004} had something to do with it, but it didn't. Then I noticed one thing: in the tests where I let my Pikmin pummel away at all of the berries, they took longer to regrow.
So with that, I got to a plant, knocked off one berry, saved a state, and then tried different things:
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Scenario || Under attack for these many frames || Recharged on frame || Difference between base test || Difference / attack ratio
|-
! Base test &ndash; left to regrow uninterrupted
| 0 || 8612 || N/A || N/A
|-
! 1 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 2687 || 10548 || 1936 || 0.7205061407
|-
! 2 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 2302 || 10260 || 1648 || 0.7158992181
|-
! 3 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 1529 || 10045 || 1433 || 0.9372138653
|-
! 4 Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 1160 || 9380 || 768 || 0.6620689655
|-
! Many Purple Pikmin attacking it
| 110 || 8646 || 34 || 0.3090909091
|}
So in conclusion: the base time is definitely 120 seconds, and it increases the longer the Pikmin have been attacking the plant for. I can't find a good ratio of extra time over attack duration, but that's probably because of the intricacies of Pikmin attacks in general. The frame values are estimate, since I couldn't realistically go frame-by-frame until I found the exact one, but they're fairly close. The case with several Pikmin had a really small sample so I think it should be taken with a grain of salt, but it still confirms the theory that Pikmin attacks make it take longer. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:28, May 18, 2019 (EDT)