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:This has been discussed in the Discord channel several times, but a name has never been agreed upon. The key problems are that there is no word to describe all the alien creatures from the different planets in ''Pikmin 4'' collectively, and that it's not certain what type of writing system it is. Terms suggested for the first word of the title include "Hocotatian", "Koppaite", "Giyan", "alien", "intergalactic", "interplanetary", "interstellar", "secret", "galactic", "''Pikmin''", "space", and "unnamed". Terms suggested for the second word of the title include "text", "alphabet", "script", "cipher", "language", "writing", and "font". &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 16:55, December 18, 2023 (EST)
:This has been discussed in the Discord channel several times, but a name has never been agreed upon. The key problems are that there is no word to describe all the alien creatures from the different planets in ''Pikmin 4'' collectively, and that it's not certain what type of writing system it is. Terms suggested for the first word of the title include "Hocotatian", "Koppaite", "Giyan", "alien", "intergalactic", "interplanetary", "interstellar", "secret", "galactic", "''Pikmin''", "space", and "unnamed". Terms suggested for the second word of the title include "text", "alphabet", "script", "cipher", "language", "writing", and "font". &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 16:55, December 18, 2023 (EST)
I definitely have thoughts on each of the proposed names, as discussed in the Discord, sl I'll share them here:
* Hocotatian, Koppaite, and Giyan: Each alone makes sense, but the language is used by a dozen planets and would be odd to single out one.
* alien: this one in particular I am not a fan of, as the term "alien" is already used offically in a [[Alien Billboard|quite different context]].
* intergalactic, interplanetary, interstellar, galactic, space: Not particularly wrong, I wouldn't be directly opposed to these options. However, they are rather generic sounding, and not unique to ''Pikmin''. Commander Keen (and later, Minecraft) has a rather famous {{w|Standard Galactic Alphabet}}.
* secret: I find this one the least suitable option, as the text is not particularly secret at all. It's obscured, yes, but the games never treat it like a secret to decode.
* ''Pikmin'': This is my prefered choice, as it is the fictional language used in the {{ps}}. I can see why it may be misleading since it's not a language used by the [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] themselves, though.
* unnamed: a similar problem to the earlier space names, but even more ambiguous. I would begrudgingly accept this one.
--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 18:20, December 18, 2023 (EST)

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"Koppaite text" seems like a misnomer. The article says it's "text written in the language of Koppai", but all the characters in these games seem to speak the same language, and the script has been used outside of Pikmin 3. But I can't think of an adequate name. 2 B (talk) 12:05, December 18, 2023 (EST)

This has been discussed in the Discord channel several times, but a name has never been agreed upon. The key problems are that there is no word to describe all the alien creatures from the different planets in Pikmin 4 collectively, and that it's not certain what type of writing system it is. Terms suggested for the first word of the title include "Hocotatian", "Koppaite", "Giyan", "alien", "intergalactic", "interplanetary", "interstellar", "secret", "galactic", "Pikmin", "space", and "unnamed". Terms suggested for the second word of the title include "text", "alphabet", "script", "cipher", "language", "writing", and "font". — Soprano(talk) 16:55, December 18, 2023 (EST)

I definitely have thoughts on each of the proposed names, as discussed in the Discord, sl I'll share them here:

  • Hocotatian, Koppaite, and Giyan: Each alone makes sense, but the language is used by a dozen planets and would be odd to single out one.
  • alien: this one in particular I am not a fan of, as the term "alien" is already used offically in a quite different context.
  • intergalactic, interplanetary, interstellar, galactic, space: Not particularly wrong, I wouldn't be directly opposed to these options. However, they are rather generic sounding, and not unique to Pikmin. Commander Keen (and later, Minecraft) has a rather famous Standard Galactic Alphabet.
  • secret: I find this one the least suitable option, as the text is not particularly secret at all. It's obscured, yes, but the games never treat it like a secret to decode.
  • Pikmin: This is my prefered choice, as it is the fictional language used in the Pikmin series. I can see why it may be misleading since it's not a language used by the Pikmin themselves, though.
  • unnamed: a similar problem to the earlier space names, but even more ambiguous. I would begrudgingly accept this one.

--PopitTart (talk) 18:20, December 18, 2023 (EST)