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I think in the future, when Pikmin 3 is getting more attention, and consequentially this wikia will get more traffic, we should think about using a livestream account for Pikmin. We could use it to just talk out of the context of the wiki, and we could upload glitch and speedrun videos to play. If anyone has the equipment, we could livestream. I think it would strengthen the community, and more people would go on then the chatrooms. FWI, basic livestream accounts are free. What a livestream account is is basically an online tv station, where we can play whatever video we want (including live videos).

Thoughts? IAMAHIPO_ocolor 19:35, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Bumping this page to top of recent changes; I think we should discuss this. Also, it doesn't have to be Livestream, just and streaming site. 68.39.16.71 12:47, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

So what is Livestream exactly? Hmm... looking into I see a little more, interesting... also, not too long ago thought about maybe doing some sort of Pikipedia podcast or something... This seems like a semi-good place to bring that up... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
BUMP! I don't understand Livestream and tell you the truth, I've never heard of it,but it does sound ineterseting. *goes back under his rock* --FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
Google it, it looks rather interesting. I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Obviously, you need someone with the required equipment and a fast enough upload speed for watchable video. Otherwise, maybe, if it works like you make it sound like it should... GP

hopefully, by the time Pikmin 3 comes out, I will have a reasonably fast computer, instead of this white shiny paperweight (also known as a mac) (I didn't get the mac out of my own volition). BTW, Green, what type of setup do you have? 68.39.16.71 22:46, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Computer speed has relatively nothing to do with it, unless you have a computer so slow it can't encode the source fairly well on-the-fly; I was talking about network speed, which depends on your ISP. I, at the moment and for the next at least 3 years apart from holidays, am at university, with no TV, no capture devices, and certainly no Pikmin... GP
My computer is... slowish... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
Well, I have an awful laptop with 512 memory and 1.67 ghzX1 processor, but it functions at 1/2 that. I hope I can run fraps and upload at the same time >.> Also, Green, what is your comp like? 68.39.16.71 22:35, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
Well, uploading doesn't really take much processing, so if you can run fraps, then you can upload at the same time. I have a 4GB RAM (DDR2)/2GHz dual-core laptop (yay 18th birthday). But wait, why would you use fraps? I'd've thought that livestream would require that you use its own software? ...Also, you're hipo, right? GP
I think livestream just uploads the stream, its not like it records it. I hope I can run fraps >.>. Also, nice computer. Do you play any online games? And yes, this is ocolor. Just logged out a lot. 68.39.16.71 09:46, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
I will attempt to figure it out... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
Do you to want me to make the account? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
No, I don't really use it for games: the graphics card/chipset/whatever is fail, and I don't use Windows much, if at all.
And I can't seem to work out much from the site, but I would expect you either have to use their program, or they'll support something standard like UDP/RTP. (Though I don't see where fraps fits into this: that records from the computer output to a file, doesn't it? Does it have network streaming options?) GP
It really doesn't tell you much... This video seems the only source of information, and that seems to show a program you have to install that works only on Windows. GP
Well, if you have 4gb ram and 4ghz total processor, you ought to upgrade to a nice enough graphics card. Also, please, PLEASE tell me your other OS is lunix/something other than mac. Here is some info. It doesn't look hard to do, It looks like all you need is a source of video. I think the video you pointed out, Green, is an application that can be used to upload. One could use a plugin or I think even just a raw feed with no app to upload, but it doesn't have the features. We can always use a different site. The way is there, but is there a will? 68.39.16.71 11:39, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Nope, there is an option for 100% browser based streaming. here it is. I don't have a camera ATM, but I created a channel (Pikipedia) and will upload some videos to play continously if I can. Like Pikmin glitches, walkthroughs. the actual channel 68.39.16.71 11:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
It's a laptop, so upgrading isn't really a (feasible) possibility, and I don't really feel the need to play resource-intensive commercial PC games (mostly since I'd be stuck in Windows while playing; it's not like they'll work in a virtual machine any better than in Wine). And yeah, Linux - though what's wrong with Macs? I've never used one, but everything I have heard is better than Windows; and they're Unix-based like Linux.
So you created the account? Yeah, so all you need now is a capture card/whatever that is supported. A camera should work, but of course it'd be off-screen. I wonder if they have a list of supported things? GP
Let me put it this way. IF OS were knives, windows would be a mid range multi-tool, mac would be a pair of safety cut scissors, and Linux would be a swissarmy knife with 20 attachments. I am going to imbeed some videos from youtube, and I want to know if its OK if I upload your videos. 68.39.16.71 12:07, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Pikmin ones, sure. Does my name stay attached to them? Also, if you were thinking of downloading them from YouTube, note that you should be able to get higher-quality versions here if YouTube hasn't kept the originals. GP
It just imbeds them, I don't have to upload anything:D ANyways, I will be uploading speed runs and glitches and other misc Pikmin stuff, and if I get a camera, great, but if not, hopefully someone from Pikipedia will, and they can stream too. I think we can use it to chat mostly, and I will see where it goes. ATM the aspect is ridiculous and the format is wrong, I will be making a Pikipedia banner to add at some point. If your name stays attached, do you want me to take it down? I don't know if it does. 68.39.16.71 12:20, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
If it's automatic, then it'll probably keep everything from YT, which is fine. When you say 'aspect'/'format' - of the videos? The ones you upload, or YouTube ones too? GP
So HIPO, you'll be running this...? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
For now. It takes a while to import videos from youtube, but I will get it done soon enough. Of course, if someone we can trusts wants to upload stream, I will give them control of that. I am thinking, if we are having a day were we are tired of Pikmin, I might just make it a Pikmin related channel, and play music and other videos when everyone is bored. I'll see how it goes. Maybe we could put a link to it in addition to/ replacing the chatroom, because this has chat as well, and no one seems to go on chat >.> (I have been seeing if anyones been n recently.) 68.39.16.71 14:52, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
Just noticed livecast has a new Podcast feature, as I said in the third or fourth postish area, I would be extremely interested in doing something like that... though, we may need more people... Ah, that says Procaster, not Podcaster... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Though, Livestream lets you do pretty much the same thing: if you have a camera (/webcam, etc.), you can easily record yourself doing whatever; and I expect sound-only stuff would work too? Otherwise, apparently something called tindeck does that. Not sure what you're thinking of doing, though? GP

Er... not really like that, kinda I suppose... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Help with GIMP[edit]

I am trying to create a label for the channel (the transparent thing in the bottom right of the channel of a regular television channel), but I ca't get GIMP to export a transparent image. I wanted the opacity to be less then 100% so that a person could see what was underneath. I had also cropped all but the Pikmin, so it was basically a layer that I wanted to put over the channel. How do I do that? IAMAHIPO_ocolor 17:02, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The image is transparent in GIMP, yes? (You can see the squares behind?) Then just save it as PNG (whatever.png). GP
How do you transperatize? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
How do you make the squares? Also, join me and Crystal in the channel :D IAMAHIPO_ocolor 17:33, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Channel? IRC or this livestream thing? If the latter, link please?
You mean so that when you delete an area, it goes transparent instead of white, right? You have to turn on the alpha channel (layer/transparency/add alpha channel). GP

thx. the actual channel IAMAHIPO_ocolor 17:51, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Transparent logo: [1] I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
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This is what I get when I save it. I want it to show only white, and the white to be somewhat transparent. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 07:26, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Disregard that; I forgot to save it as png -_-. I just need to know how to make the white semi transparent, and how to control the size and location of it in livestream. I am currently uploading more of the Pikmin speedrun IAMAHIPO_ocolor 07:45, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, when you are in the channel, leaveja comment so I know you were there. Maybe we should have a set time to get on, b/c if everyone goes on for 5 minutes randomly then leaves when no one is there, no one will ever go on at the same time. I emailed you a invite thing to help moderate the channel, upload, and stream, ect, Green.I got all 16 pieces of Dragorn's speed run, just need to get the 45 pikmin 8 day Pikmin 2 run. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 10:06, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Or you could go on and stay on as long as you are on the computer... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
When I have it open, my computer is slow as molasses T-T. I'll look into getting a plugin/widget to let me know when people join. Things are so much easier on a PC.... IAMAHIPO_ocolor 12:33, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
The image: select the layer in the layers tab/section, wherever you've put that, and move the opacity slider. And, really, I'm not going to be using this for chat: that's what the IRC is for. This is clearly for videos, and until there's live stuff, I don't have much interest in being there. GP
Or set the eraser to 10% and knock yourself out :D --Prezintenden


Grargh, edit conflict. Banner's a bit blech-looking. I just took it and cleaned it up a bit (changes: moved Pikmin about, blurred purple a bit, added Olimar/Louie, added shadows, replaced background, removing those icky white bits you had around the Pikmin):
clicky clicky

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If you feel like you need some sort of background to anchor things:

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Seemed to be lacking a horizon-line:

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Couldn't get a nice lower-sky colour, so horizon line with more land instead:

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Any of those better/okay? GP
That last one looks good. I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

I'll go for last one, too. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

Thanks Green. I don't know what we would do without you. Also, good to see Prez isn't dead. I like the banners, but I am gonna make a new one now that I know all that stuff. Thanks. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 21:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: I am going to use your banner Green, having problems with learning GIMP. Also, half way through uploading the 5:12 speedrun by Nolan 'Radix' Pflug. I separated a new folder/storyboard for if anyone wants to upload their favorite videos (like it look liked Crys was looking into). The thing is, disable the folder for autopilot, so the only way you can play it is if you are manually in the studio. I was thinking, maybe next weekend I could upload a movie, maybe the Super Mario movie or something entirely different, and the editors of Pikipedia could unwind and chat :D. Tell me if you like this, and which movie you want. 68.39.16.71 06:42, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wait...Radix's run? Not Miles's? GP
...link?...

Just spent 3 hours of slow computer speed uploading it... What's the difference between the two? Is that the 45 Pikmin speedrun one? And, would you watch a movie on the weekend, Green? IAMAHIPO_ocolor 08:14, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

...You haven't heard of Miles's run? It's a normal 8-day run, beats Radix's by far. And it's on YT, so you can just link them all. Link. And...no, probably not; my family's meant to be visiting on Saturday, so not then, and I'll have to catch up on work on Sunday, most likely. GP
Link to a non-Youtube download? It takes probably 100xmore time to transfer data from YT to Livetream than it does to just upload it plus I can only have one at a time from Youtube, so I can't just select>import all and sit back, I have to be on the whole time while it slows my computer to molasses. And the download is better quality. Does it show the underground sections too? Also, I should be in the IRC and the Pikipedia Livestream for about another hour or so, if you want to drop by. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 08:47, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
Radix's run? Oh God no. And are you just uploading random people's speedruns without giving credit? That doesn't seem like the most ethical thing to do... Miles. 14:36, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
Give them some credit HIPO and also upload some vids from Pikmin 2, because I don't want to see the same videos running 24/7.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
There isn't a non-YT version yet (unless he uploads it somewhere), and won't be until verification is complete at SDA. And...I left after saying the last thing I said. Yeah. GP
Yeah...--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

So everyone but me just happend to have livestream equipment?R to the P to thePikirbies.PNGWyb.

>.> I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
??? What equipment? --FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
Equipment? Because if there is I won't probably have it. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png
There isn't >.> I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

For talking...R to the P to thePikirbies.PNGWyb.

For anything I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
You don't even need a mic?R to the P to thePikirbies.PNGWyb.
You can choose which clips to import and play without any special equipment or programs. If you have a mic, camera, or screen capture software, you can stream in real-time.

Miles, could you do my a huge favor, and upload you speedrun somewhere? All it needs to be is less than 1gb put together, so if you need to chop it in two halfway that is fine. 68.39.16.71 18:27, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you have a suckish mic like mine... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

I have no mic! Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

...And? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
What? Don't you need one? Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png
No I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
   Then ho do they hear you talk?R to the P to thePikirbies.PNGWyb.

But then isit something like talking in Messenger? Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

Ugh *Slams head on pavement* okay, You CAN broadcast your mic if you have one, it is not NECESSARY I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

<poll> Which movie do you want to watch (next weekend or this weekend): Super Mario Bros. Movie (campy fun) Pokemon Movie Regular drama movie Regular comedy Regular Action Pulp Fiction (always fun) Punch group (fight club) Or if you want, just suggest something else. srsly. </poll> IAMAHIPO_ocolor 09:28, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

We need something just incredibly awesome... that one of us has on DVD... anyway, if I find time tommorow I'll see if I can get DVDs to work on livestream I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Jaws! Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

MST3K, O Brother Where Art Thou, Vicar of Dibley, I have tons of awesome movies... CAST AWAY! I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Well, it looks like we will watch a Pokemon movie, either the first or second one I presume. I'll just torrent the movie and upload, but we need to agree on a time to watch. 68.39.16.71 03:13, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Anyone except Pokémon 3. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png
[14:18:17] <IAMAHIPO_ocolor> Tell him we were gonna do 1/2 >.> GP
2! Actually I'm unable to watch, Microsoft decided I needed their goddamn virus protection software, and eer time I go to a site I hafta say, no I don't want protection, and if I'm on a site to long, it does that too... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Movie Time[edit]

The time right now to watch Pokemon the first movie is Saturday October 31 7:00 -5UTC (7:00 east), so it isn't too late for our friends across the puddle, but not too early for people in America. If there is enough interest, I will show the second movie afterwards/ the next week. If this conflicts with your schedule, tell me here. 68.39.16.71 14:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC) (IAMAHIPO_ocolor)

I suggest someone give me their time from the east so I know exactly when to watch at my time (Pacific Time for me)...--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

It is 11:38 right now, 8:38 for you. So, at 4:00, tune in (i think) IAMAHIPO_ocolor 15:39, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Err... like 7:30 or 9:30 for me I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

You are pacfic time, right Crystal? 68.39.16.71 16:25, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Crys is Minnesotian, so he's central so his time will be around 6-7 pm (I think...) Okay, 4 pm it is.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

Alright. My mom is having a psychotic episode, she thinks I am trying to beat her up, so if I am not around at 7:00, one of you with studio priveleges just queue the movie please. I am not saying I won't be there, its just my mom is.... unpredictable ATM. 68.39.16.71 16:43, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Central, ah, er, well... okay... I was thinking maybe we could watch a horror flick instead for the holiday, no? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
I don't feel like upchucking my dinenr to blood and gore. Just saw SAW VI and I can't sleep...--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
How bout Halloween? That's not too bad... Or Donnie Darko, which isn't scary at all, any other ideas? I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
Halloween was...meh? Something that doesn't have guts, blood, and human parts flying everywhere...though I wanna see the Pokemon movie because I've only seen the second movie (the one with Lugia) like 100 times...--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
I've got it! Lucario and the Mystery of Mew! I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
Yes, that's a good movie. I only saw part of the beginning until I had to go to school. T_T.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

See, I haven't watched any Pokémon movie, except the one with Entei and Unown, and it mostly sucked. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

3, that one was meh... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Srsly guys. Its only me and gamefreak so far. We are starting in 6 minutes >.>

Where, where? Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png
Here's the link for next week: [2].--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
Sorry guys, something came up I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
You missed it, Prez was there too.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

Damn! I'll try to be there next time. I think I got distracted playing Master Quest. When is the next movie? Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

I think next week. Ocolor should tell us before, though.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
So please do! I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

recap[edit]

Prez, Gamefreak, and I attended. It was fun, and very productive comments were shared by all.

Next saturday, November 7th, we will do this again. The most obvious choice for the next movie is Pokemon 2000, but if anyone wants to watch anything in particular, please feel free to tell. In the mean time, I will be uploading more Pikmin videos. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 23:24, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Inter5tella 555! I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.
I'll go with Pokemon the Movie 2000 or if you could, the Super (Crappy) Mario Bros. Movie. Probably Inter5tella 555 because I've only seen part of it and it was kinds weird, but in a good way.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

Edit: having technical issues. I downloaded the torrent (.avi), but when I go into the studio and press the upload button, my safari freezes :/. Ill try to work it out ASAP, the movie is still on tonight @7:00pm east. 68.39.16.71 17:40, November 7, 2009 (UTC) double edit: used FF, going fine. T minus 6 hours. 68.39.16.71 18:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC) triple edit: talking to people in europe, they would be watching at 1 am, so movie is going on at 5:00 east, though if you had been planing on watching, and this screwed you over, tell me. We will work something out TT_TT 68.39.16.71 18:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so that is 2pm for me. That'll work. Hopefully, Prez, Crys, Snakeboss, and others show up. BTW, what movie?--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

Me green and Prez are all in that chat ATM... It seems Prez is coming, ill begconvince Green.

Okay, only 1 hour lefy.--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!

Livestream is being stupid. It is taking ridiculously long to convert it. I uploaded it easily. Livestream just... Idk O.o. Me and Green are working on it. 68.39.16.71 21:23, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


Alright. Livestream isn't cooperating at all. I think we won't be able to do this tonight. If something suddenly kicks in, ill tell you, but the chances of that now seem slim at best. 68.39.16.71 22:06, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I can upload O brother for next week on tuesday I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

November 15[edit]

mkay. Tomorrow, sunday Nov. 15 at 5:00 (-5UTC) We can watch the movie. I was away today, just leave a message here if you are going to watch. 68.39.16.71 00:39, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, what movie and 5pm eastern?--FREAK ~GameGameFreak.PNGFreak~ OUT!
Yeah, depends on the movie. GP
Pokemans 2000. I like to watch the early ones b/c the inadvertent innuendo's make for lulz in chatting. If you want to upload something else, do so, but it would be hard to do so by tonight, it might just be easier to save that for next week. 68.39.16.71 11:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
I wanna upload a movie for next week, I'll upload it tomorow I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

... I hope that CL uploaded it, It starts in 45 minutes... I can't always set these things up; its the Pikipedia channel >.>