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:Yeah.. That got deleted instantly... Again.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:Yeah.. That got deleted instantly... Again.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


Why can't I even get a redirect to last?[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:Yoshi's Crunch.jpg|30px]] 02:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Why can't I even get a redirect to last?[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:Yoshi's Crunch.jpg|30px]] 02:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


:If they deleted the first one, you can bet they'll delete any others you make. Wikipedia doesn't need to go in-depth into topics which have their own wikis. It's likely that they frown upon such advertisements. I don't know what their policies are exactly, but perhaps it would be possible to sneak a link to the Pikipedia into the [[wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]] or [[wikipedia:Pikmin (series)|Pikmin]] pages. Chances are those will be deleted as well, but you never know. Either way, if someone's interested in the wildlife of Pikmin (and are internet-savvy), they can find their way here.
:If they deleted the first one, you can bet they'll delete any others you make. Wikipedia doesn't need to go in-depth into topics which have their own wikis. It's likely that they frown upon such advertisements. I don't know what their policies are exactly, but perhaps it would be possible to sneak a link to the Pikipedia into the [[wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]] or [[wikipedia:Pikmin (series)|Pikmin]] pages. Chances are those will be deleted as well, but you never know. Either way, if someone's interested in the wildlife of Pikmin (and are internet-savvy), they can find their way here.
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Just Curious, shouldn't we add the Piklopedia Number to the entries? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}}
Just Curious, shouldn't we add the Piklopedia Number to the entries? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}}


:No '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:No '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::Crystal, go away. Breadbug, I suggested on another page somewhere that the entire Piklopedia article be rewritten to better match the in-game Piklopedia, since the enemies here are not in the same order as those in the in-game one, and we have a number of things which aren't even there (Pikmin, Spiderwort...). So yes, I (still) think it should be redone with the correct order and numbers. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::Crystal, go away. Breadbug, I suggested on another page somewhere that the entire Piklopedia article be rewritten to better match the in-game Piklopedia, since the enemies here are not in the same order as those in the in-game one, and we have a number of things which aren't even there (Pikmin, Spiderwort...). So yes, I (still) think it should be redone with the correct order and numbers. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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(Sorry, Can't log in right now) Killerbreadbug72
(Sorry, Can't log in right now) Killerbreadbug72


:@JJ: Yeh I am a jerk, I've been told :P... no rly... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:@JJ: Yeh I am a jerk, I've been told :P... no rly... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::Should be table-ised like Treasure Hoard.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
::Should be table-ised like Treasure Hoard.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
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We need some variety here! The boss pages usually don't have this, but pretty much all regular enemy pages do. We should try and fix this. [[Special:Contributions/67.165.116.102|67.165.116.102]] 20:19, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
We need some variety here! The boss pages usually don't have this, but pretty much all regular enemy pages do. We should try and fix this. [[Special:Contributions/67.165.116.102|67.165.116.102]] 20:19, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


:Those are the two strategics that work most often, although swarming is a bad idea, as you can lose a lot of pikmin on certain enemies very fast. Do we have a page for the Dwarf Bulborb Sweet Spot? [[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 12:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Those are the two strategics that work most often, although swarming is a bad idea, as you can lose a lot of pikmin on certain enemies very fast. Do we have a page for the Dwarf Bulborb Sweet Spot? [[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 12:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


::They should have strategies for when you don't have purples, though (apart from Waterwraith, obviously), especially since a few might need to apply to Pikmin 1 as well.  And yeah, sure, go fix them.  For a lot of enemies, specific strategies without purples do exist.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
::They should have strategies for when you don't have purples, though (apart from Waterwraith, obviously), especially since a few might need to apply to Pikmin 1 as well.  And yeah, sure, go fix them.  For a lot of enemies, specific strategies without purples do exist.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
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==It is not Pikmin 1==
==It is not Pikmin 1==
On most pages of this wiki, PIKMIN, the game, is called Pikmin 1. There is not one in the title and I'm sure that if people paid attention to how the word is used, they'll figure "They're talking about the first Pikmin game". I want to get replace the parts where it says Pikmin 1 to Pikmin or PIKMIN, whichever you prefer.------
On most pages of this wiki, PIKMIN, the game, is called Pikmin 1. There is not one in the title and I'm sure that if people paid attention to how the word is used, they'll figure "They're talking about the first Pikmin game". I want to get replace the parts where it says Pikmin 1 to Pikmin or PIKMIN, whichever you prefer.------
<span style="color:blue;">[http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pikmin1254/ Pikmin]</span> [[Image:Maskedman-3-.png]][http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Pikmin1254 1254] 16:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
<span style="color:blue;">[http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pikmin1254/ Pikmin]</span> [[File:Maskedman-3-.png]][http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Pikmin1254 1254] 16:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


:First, it's not PIKMIN; a lot of games have capitalised names on the side of the case.  Second, I think it's better to use 'Pikmin 1' than be a bit ambiguous.  Clarity over preciseness, IMO.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
:First, it's not PIKMIN; a lot of games have capitalised names on the side of the case.  Second, I think it's better to use 'Pikmin 1' than be a bit ambiguous.  Clarity over preciseness, IMO.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
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:Worth doing, yeah.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
:Worth doing, yeah.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}


::It's happened. More times than it should.[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[Image:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 22:10, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
::It's happened. More times than it should.[[User:Pikdude|<span style="color:blue">Pik</span>]][[User talk:Pikdude|<span style="color:green">dude</span>]][[File:200px-Mario you phail.gif|50px]] 22:10, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


==PICS==
==PICS==
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:Although this page is called the Piklopedia, which was taken right from the actual Piklopedia from ''Pikmin 2'', enemies from other games (e.g. ''Pikmin'') are included here as well. So even though it mainly relates to ''Pikmin 2'', this page also includes enemies from ''Pikmin'' (and in the future, ''Pikmin 3''). So yes, I'd add the icon for the first ''Pikmin'' game as well. {{User:PikFan23/sig}}
:Although this page is called the Piklopedia, which was taken right from the actual Piklopedia from ''Pikmin 2'', enemies from other games (e.g. ''Pikmin'') are included here as well. So even though it mainly relates to ''Pikmin 2'', this page also includes enemies from ''Pikmin'' (and in the future, ''Pikmin 3''). So yes, I'd add the icon for the first ''Pikmin'' game as well. {{User:PikFan23/sig}}
::To me, it feels a bit wrong that this page should include non-Piklopedia stuff, given its name.  Some of the stuff under ''Other'' could be put in ''See also'', and the Pikmin family bit should be removed.  It might be nice to have a separate page for ''Pikmin'' enemies - all it would provide is a table with some data, though, so maybe we want to think again about [[User talk:Greenpickle/2#helpful idea|this]]. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 06:02, 8 July 2013 (EDT)
== Comment by NinjaEditor on 19th February 2014 ==
How odd... The Raging Long Legs has twice as much health as the Titan Dweevil. - [[User:NinjaEditor|NinjaEditor]] ([[User talk:NinjaEditor|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/NinjaEditor|contribs]])
:Yea, the Hole of Heroes (raging long legs' home) is considered to be a lot harder than Dream Den (last dungeon in Pikmin 2) - [[User:Jpmrocks7|Jpmrocks7]] ([[User talk:Jpmrocks7|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Jpmrocks7|contribs]])
== Comment by FlyingMud on 5th March 2014 ==
Um how do you get to the Pikopedia in Pikmin 3? - [[User:FlyingMud|FlyingMud]] ([[User talk:FlyingMud|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/FlyingMud|contribs]])
:Uh... there is no Piklopedia in Pikmin 3... - [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/AeroBlaze777|contribs]])
:Unfortunately, it does not exist. - [[User:Jpmrocks7|Jpmrocks7]] ([[User talk:Jpmrocks7|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Jpmrocks7|contribs]])
== Comment by Mampharos on 7th July 2014 ==
The right side of the table is cut off; we need to either reformat it or remove a couple of columns - [[User:Mampharos|Mampharos]] ([[User talk:Mampharos|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Mampharos|contribs]])
:You can scroll the table sideways, since it has lots of columns. - [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/AeroBlaze777|contribs]])
== Comment by Nathansack74 on 7th August 2014 ==
I heard that there was a tangible Piklopedia only released in Japan. Is this true??? - [[User:Nathansack74|Nathansack74]] ([[User talk:Nathansack74|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Nathansack74|contribs]])
== Locations ==
Do we ''really'' need a table by location? If somebody wants to know where an enemy is, they can go to its article. You could argue that this table is useful to see which enemies are on an area, but then you can just go to an area's article. Plus, sorting the table (which isn't even available on mobile, by the way) by area won't really work well, because of the way we list the areas. It's ugly, a bit arbitrary, and useless. I say we get rid of it. While we're at it, we don't really need a list of "other" creatures. This is a remnant from when the Piklopedia article used to explain enemies and serve as a general "list of enemies and creatures" article. The article should only be about the Piklopedia; the rest of the info is now organized in its own articles, like [[enemy]] and [[vegetation]]. I'll do this cleanup in some days if nobody objects. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:14, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
==Dying Enemies==
The Hermit Crawmad will die if a small one is petrified and has enough Pikpik Carrots thrown at it, due to a glitch. The Female Sheargrubs, Male Sheargrubs, and Shearwigs will all die if they fall in water. The Volatile Dweevil will... explode. Can anything else die? Also, does the Dwarf Bulbear really gitch? {{User:Mariotime315/sig}} 16:24, 6 November 2016 (EST)
:Weird. I tried doing the Hermit Crawmad thing and couldn't pull it off. How long do you have to do it for? I was chucking carrots for a good five minutes. Also, what version of the game are you playing? Like, what console and [[region]]? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:56, 8 November 2016 (EST)
::I was doing it on the ''New Play Control'' one. It was on the North American version too. The Hermit Crawmad has to be the smallest size, and the Pikpik Carrots have to hit it directly. I don't think it is possible to do this while it is in its nest. It should take about 2 ultra-bitter sprays, but it can be done with only one. It should work. {{User:Mariotime315/sig}}
:::I see what the problem is. If you do it on the water, it's a ''lot'' slower. It works better if it's all on dry land. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 18:10, 10 January 2017 (EST)
The glitch of the dying dwarf bulbears isn't listed in the dying enemies section. Never could get it to work for me though, only enemies that ever die for me in there is the volatie dweeveel.[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 15:01, 26 January 2017 (EST)
:If that glitch is proven true, it can be added to the section. But so far, it just sounds like a myth... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:44, 26 January 2017 (EST)
Well it's listed on the dwarf bulbear page.[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 20:30, 8 February 2017 (EST)