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[[File:Pikmin3 logo E3.png|thumb|360px|Logo, as seen at the E3 show in 2012.]]
|name = Pikmin 3
'''''Pikmin 3''''' is the third game in the [[Pikmin series|''Pikmin'' series]], set to be released for the [[Wii U]] in April through June 2013.<ref>[http://www.examiner.com/article/pikmin-3-delayed-for-nintendo-wii-u-new-gameplay-footage 2012 release date - Examiner]</ref> It was revealed at [[w:Electronic Entertainment Expo|E3]] 2012 along with [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cMFfTMrWI8 a gameplay presentation] and several playable demos on the showcase floor.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cMFfTMrWI8 E3 2012 Presentation]</ref>  Major new elements announced include [[Rock Pikmin]] and four [[captain]]s.
|console = [[Wii U]]
|developer = Nintendo EAD
|publisher = [[Nintendo]]
|genre = RTS
|japan = Spring 2013
|northamerica = Q2 2013
|europe = Q2 2013
|australia = Q2 2013
|prequel = [[Pikmin 2]]|image = Boxart.png
|size = 250px|jpname = ピクミン 3
|ratings = E}}


''Note: some details on this page are inferred from gameplay videos and trailers, and may not be entirely accurate. In particular, only Challenge Mode gameplay has been shown, so statements may not apply to other game modes.''
'''Pikmin 3''' is the upcoming third installment in the Pikmin franchise revealed during the Nintendo press conference at the 2012 Electronic Entertainment Expo on June 5th. It will be released on the Nintendo [[Wii U]] console in spring 2013 for Japan, and sometime in quarter two 2013 elsewhere.
==Plot==
From what has been seen at E3 so far<ref>[http://e3.nintendo.com Nintendo All-Access @ 2012 E3]</ref>, Pikmin 3 revolves around 4 entirely-new characters who come to the [[Planet of the Pikmin]] for currently unknown reasons, and explore the depths of the planet after having become lost. None of these characters seem to be related to [[Olimar]] nor presumably [[Louie]], who are notably missing, though Olimar was confirmed to indeed appear in the game.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIB5fflsQzM Gameplay E3 Demo Walkthrough]</ref>
 
According to Krysta Yang, Public Relations Specialist for Nintendo, more of the story will be revealed as the game comes closer to launch. <ref>http://www.thegameraccess.com/interviews/wii-u/pikmin-3-breaks-the-long-awaited-return-on-wii-u-interview-pax-prime-2012</ref>
 
The game is planned to be more similar to ''[[Pikmin 1]]'' due to the fact that Shigeru Miyamoto intends to add a time limit back to the plot. <ref>http://mynintendonews.com/2013/01/02/miyamoto-says-pikmin-3-will-be-more-like-the-original-pikmin/</ref>


==Gameplay==
==Gameplay==
The gameplay of ''Pikmin 3'' is largely similar to that of the other two games in the [[Pikmin (series)|series]] in that players use the [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] to accomplish tasks, and the five existing Pikmin types have been confirmed for the game. New gameplay elements include the [[Rock Pikmin]], used to destroy the armor of enemies and other tough objects; and new [[hazards]] such as ice and magma, which require new tactics to overcome.  Pikmin have demonstrated new abilities not previously encountered, such as riding down a natural slide to gather materials and collecting stones from piles around the area to build [[bridge]]s.  Flying pink creatures that resemble Pikmin can be seen in the trailer for the game and on the title screen of the demos, but no further information is known about them.


No returning characters have been announced, and four new ones are introduced in the game: a pink-haired girl, a brawny man with a military-haircut, a small man with blue-green hair, and a lanky green-haired man.  These Pikmin [[captain|leaders]] are able to throw other leaders in ''Pikmin 3'' (though at a lower angle than Pikmin), allowing for new puzzles.  Throwing a leader seems to have a similar effect to throwing a Pikmin: the thrown leader will perform possible actions in the surrounding area, such as picking buried Pikmin.


After completing a stage, the replay feature allows players to review their session using the GamePad and the television. The recorded game can be fast-forwarded, rewound or paused.


The game features a Challenge Mode, with three submodes; of these, Mission Mode challenges players to earn a high score by gathering the most fruit by value in a given time limit. The fruit is carried by Pikmin to a floating machine that resembles a satellite, which draws it in and stores it. At certain scores, medals are awarded to the player. Online multiplayer will not feature in the game, but local multiplayer will.<ref>[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/06/11/the-origins-of-pikmin-3 2012 - multiplayer local only - IGN]</ref>
Pikmin 3 will give a complete overhaul to the series' battle mechanics; rather than simply throwing pikmin at targets, the player must analyze a target and determine exactly how it should br brought down. For example, some walls will be more easily broken if Pikmin attack them from the top and work their way down, and some enemies my react differently if attack in sensitive areas, such as their eyes. 
 
Pikmin 3's graphical design will be much more realistic thanks the the enhanced resolution and processing power of the Wii U console, and will also sport a slight exaggeration to character designs. Unlike in the past games, the pikmin will be slightly larger and each one is capable of moving individually, making them stand out more and making them seem more "alive".
 
Basic Gameplay will retain most of its recognizable features from past games; the game revolves around the player controlling an army of up to 100 various pikmin, which can be directed to preform a variety of tasks to harvest salvagables. In addition to these, a new action can now be preformed by captains, which will cause them and their pikmin swarm to quickly drop and roll side-to-side, which can be used to quickly move out of the way of a stampeding creature.
 
[[File:Gamepad.jpg|thumb|The Wii U gamepad as the map screen.]]
 
==Controls==
===Wii Remote Plus+Nunchuck===
While the controls may seem like the "New play control" scheme, there are actually a few notable differences. The ability to "barrel roll" with the D-pad has been added, along with the ability to scan with the Z button. Cycling through your Pikmin types while holding one has been changed to the C button, and disbanding your Pikmin has been changed to shaking the nunchuck.
 
(These controls are only from the E3 demo and because of such they are subject to change upon final release)
 
===Wii U Gamepad===
The Wii U Gamepad can also be used to play Pikmin 3. With the Gamepad, the player can use the analog sticks to move the captains and the X,Y,A, and B buttons to perform a number of different tasks, such as throwing and dismissing Pikmin, and switching and calling leaders as well as different Pikmin types. The Wii U Gamepad's screen displays an overhead map, and the Gamepad itself can be tilted to aim the cursors and whistle thanks to the gyroscope and accelerometer. Scanned enemies will also have their locations marked on the map.
 
==New Pikmin==
Currently, 2 new Pikmin types have been seen:


===Controls===
*[[Rock Pikmin]]
Players can play using Wii Remote Plus- and Nunchuk-based controls similar to those of the ''[[New Play Control!]]'' titles, or using the Wii U GamePad controller.  With the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, to throw Pikmin, the player shakes the Wii Remote, unlike in the ''New Play Control!'' games, and ''Pikmin 3'' adds the ability to shake the Nunchuk to "charge" up a throw.


The GamePad acts as an overhead map and radar to track Pikmin movements in real time.  It allows players to move the camera around the area freely by sliding a finger across the touch screen, making it possible to view obstacles from all sides and giving greater flexibility in commanding multiple groups of Pikmin.
* [[Unknown Pikmin|Pink Flying Pikmin]]


When the cursor is moved over an obstacle, enemy or fruit, the target gains a blue glow, and some information is displayed.  A button press zooms in the camera and displays its name. In this game, captains gain a new action: they can perform a sideways roll to move out of the way of danger.
According to a woman at the E3 show floor, there will be additional Pikmin that will be discussed at a later date.<ref>[http://gamerant.com/pink-flying-pikmin-3-riley-153575/ Gamerant Pikmin 3 Article]</ref>


==New enemies==
Krysta Yang, Public Relations Specialist for Nintendo, has also stated in an interview that there will "definitely be more pikmin" than the Rock Pikmin. <ref>http://www.thegameraccess.com/interviews/wii-u/pikmin-3-breaks-the-long-awaited-return-on-wii-u-interview-pax-prime-2012</ref>
*'''[[Armored Mawdad]]''': a large armored millipede-like creature with pincers around its mouth that it uses to capture Pikmin before using its tongue to eat them. It can be defeated by breaking its armor with Rock Pikmin.
*'''Medusal Slurker''': a Jellyfloat-like creature that attacks in the same way.  
*'''Pyroplasmic Slooch''': a magma slug that attacks by licking up Pikmin with its tongue.
*A flying caterpillar-like creature with dragonfly like wings and a curled, butterfly-like proboscis.
*A transparent squid-like enemy that lives underwater and releases poison.
*'''Whiptongue Bulborb''': a white Bulborb that can snatch up Pikmin with its incredibly long tongue.
*A Dweevil-like creature that keeps a crystal on its back to defend and camouflage itself; this can be destroyed with Rock Pikmin to expose the creature.
*What appear to be [[Skitter Leaf]]-like enemies that look like dead leaves, with smaller, usually concealed leaf-like limbs for moving around. Unlike the Skitter Leaf, they can harm the Pikmin.
*3-legged water strider-like bugs that can skate across the surface of water and hold water in a bulb on their back which is used to attack and then must be refilled somehow.
*Large fiddler crab enemy with an oversized claw that it uses to grab Pikmin with to eat them.  It moves the claw around to block thrown Pikmin, and can expel bubbles which trap Pikmin and captains and float away, popping after a while and dropping anything they contain.
*Large, bio-luminescent moth-like creature that attacks by creating a tornado to suck Pikmin in.  It is decorated with many coloured lights, and can become invisible by turning these off.
*Flying butterfly-like creatures that look a little different to [[Unmarked Spectralid]]s; they stop and rest on Bulborbs' backs, much like how Unmarked Spectralids did in the Piklopedia in the second game.


==New obstacles==
It could very well be a possibility that Orange, Green, and Cyan Pikmin may appear in the game also. Mainly because Rock and Pink appeared even though Black and Pink Onions appeared in the ending of ''Pikmin 1''. The appearences of Orange, Green and Cyan can be assumed because Onions of those colors appeared as well.
*Gates made out of sand that look like sandcastles.
*Glass gates that Rock Pikmin can break.
*'''Crystal Nodule''': large crystals that Rock Pikmin can break. They may have items inside.
*'''Spotcap''': small mushrooms that block areas and can be broken by any Pikmin.
*'''Kingcap''': a large Spotcap.
*'''Fragments''': piles of pieces used to make bridges.  A number above the pile shows how many pieces remain.
*Lily pads that captains and the Pikmin can stand on.


==Other elements==
==Nintendo E3 Presentation==
*Flying pink creatures that look like Pikmin are visible at the very start and very end of the first released trailer for the game.  These have either a leaf or a purple flower on their heads. In the Nintendo Direct of 12/5/12, one can see similarly-colored Pikmin growing on a ledge.
*Common Glowcaps can be found mostly buried beneath the ground.  If a captain touches one of these, it emerges, rising to full height and shedding light on the nearby area.  The game features very dark areas, making these useful plants.


==History==
Pikmin 3 was the very first game Nintendo presented at E3 on June 5th, 2012.
''Pikmin 3'' was first announced during E3 2008,<ref>[http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/16/miyamoto-were-making-pikmin 2008 - ''Pikmin 3'' announced - Joystiq]</ref> where Shigeru Miyamoto said, when asked about the ''Pikmin'' series, "We're making ''Pikmin''." Nothing else about the ''Pikmin'' game in development was revealed, however. On 24th July 2008, Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed in an interview, "[the Nintendo development teams] are all working on new ''Mario'', ''Zelda'' and ''Pikmin'' projects".


The game was originally planned for the [[Wii]]<ref>[http://www.mywii.com.au/NewsDetail.aspx?id=2551 2008 - ''Pikmin 3'' confirmed to be on Wii - MyWii]</ref>, but this was changed with the announcement of Nintendo's Wii U at E3 2011, where ''Pikmin 3'' was confirmed for the new console.<ref>[http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/117/1173945p1.html E3 2011 - ''Pikmin 3'' will now be on Wii U - IGN]</ref> However, no confirmation has been made as to the exclusivity of ''Pikmin 3'' to the Wii U console.
[[File:Wii U - Pikmin 3 E3 Trailer|thumb|left|300px|Pikmin 3 E3 Trailer.]][[File:Pikmin 3 - E3 2012 Gameplay Presentation & Trailer HD|thumb|300px|right|Pikmin 3 Demonstration]]


The announcement of the ''[[New Play Control!]] Pikmin'' games<ref>[http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=198399 New Play Control! ''Pikmin'' - CVG]</ref> raised questions as to the feasibility of a ''Pikmin 3''; following, in an IGN interview, it was made clear that the re-releases of ''[[Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' and ''[[Pikmin 2]]'' are separate from ''Pikmin 3'':<ref>[http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/915/915864p1.html ''Pikmin 3'' confirmed - IGN]</ref> ''Cammie Dunaway: It's not the ''Pikmin'' that Mr. Miyamoto referred to, no. Mr. Miyamoto referred to a new ''Pikmin'', as opposed to the classics that are being re-released on Wii''.


==Artwork==
<gallery captionalign="center" widths="150" position="center" orientation="landscape" bordersize="small" columns="dynamic" spacing="small">
<gallery>
P3.jpg|The Pikmin 3 logo
File:WiiU Pikmin3 1 illu01 E3.png
Pikmin3Captains.jpg|Captains throwing eachother to get around an obstacle.
File:WiiU Pikmin3 2 char01 E3.png
Pikmin 3 characters.png|The 4 new characters in Pikmin 3. Olimar and Louie will not be playable in the game for currently-unknown reasons.  Although Olimar will indeed appear, <ref>[http://www.e3insider.com/exhibitor/view/155/pikmin-3/29462/ www.e3insider.com].  Retrieved 7/11/12.</ref> it is unknown why he is not playable.
File:Pikmin 3 trial map.jpg|A map of the area playable in the E3 demo
Relaxing pikmin.jpg|The three original Pikmin in HD.
File:Demo_leaders.png|Playable captains in the game
</gallery>
</gallery>


==Gallery==
==Production==
<gallery>
 
File:Pikmin3Screen1.jpg|Pikmin battling an [[Armored Mawdad]]
The concept of Pikmin 3 first began in early 2006, and actual production of the game began in mid-2007. Miyamoto stated he was working with "a very, very, small team" and began experimenting with the DS, 3DS, and Wii consoles. Eventually, they settled on Wii, and began working on Pikmin 3. Miyamoto stated that they ran into many graphical and technical issues on the Wii version of the game.
File:Pikmin3Screen6.jpg|An image of a Whiptongue Bulborb with a long tongue that acts similar to an anteater
 
File:Pikmin3Screen2.jpg|Walking through a destroyed gate
On June 6, 2011, Pikmin 3 was annouced to be moved to the Wii U. On June 5th, 2012, the game was finally revealed to the public at E3, during Nintendo's presentation. <ref>http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/06/07/e3-nintendo-shigeru-miyamoto/</ref>
File:Fragments.jpg|A pile of Fragments
 
File:Pikmin3Screen3.jpg|Pikmin carrying yellow rocks
On August 1st, 2012, The ''Official Nintendo Magazine'' released its 85th issue, which contained information&nbsp;on the trial level's map and showed unofficial artwork of Pikmin 3 produced for the issue. [[File:Pikmin3_YellowandBluePikmin.png|thumb|119px|Unofficial art produced for Official Nintendo Magazine]]
File:Pikmin3Screen4.jpg|Captains are able to throw Pikmin as well as other captains
 
File:Pikmin3Screen5.jpg|Pikmin constructing a bridge
==Release Date==
File:Manta ray.png|The ray-like enemy
Pikmin 3 was originally planned to be a launch title for the Wii U, but this was later changed to "launch window". In December of 2012, Pikmin was announced to have been delayed again, this time until Q2 of 2013. The game has also been confirmed to be released shortly after the month of March ends in Japan, America, and in the summer for Europe.[[File:LaunchTitles|thumb|right|300px|Pikmin 3 is shown at 0:50]]
File:Crab.png|The crab-like enemy
 
File:Butterflies.png|The butterflies, just flying off from a Red Bulborb
==Trivia==
File:Whiptongue Bulborb.jpg|Another screenshot of the Whiptongue Bulborb, showing its name
*Pikmin 3 is the first game where multi-player is available in the real [[:File:Pikmin 3 Multiplayer-confirmed.jpg|story]]. (But this could just be a multiplayer mode)
File:Pikmin3Screen7.jpg|Blue Pikmin with some new water enemies
File:Pikmin3Screen8.jpg|Pikmin sitting on a vine
File:Pikmin3Screen9.jpg|Returning fruit for points in Mission Mode
File:Pikmin3flyingbugenemy.PNG|Pikmin on a lillypad with a new enemy overhead
File:Pikmin3gate.png|[[Red Pikmin]] breaking down a [[Gate]]
File:DeadSkitterLeafPikmin3.png|[[Skitter Leaf]]-like enemies
File:RedBulborbPikmin3.png|Pikmin attacking a [[Red Bulborb]]
File:Pikmin3LavaSlug.jpg|Pikmin being eaten by Pyroplasmic Slooches
File:Pyroplasmic Slooch.JPG|Showing the Pyroplasmic Slooch's name
</gallery>


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Pikmin 3
File:Boxart.png
Pikmin 3
Console Wii U
Developer Nintendo EAD
Publisher Nintendo
Genre RTS
Players {{{players}}}
Release date
Japan N/A
North America N/A
Europe N/A
Australia N/A
South Korea N/A

Pikmin 3 is the upcoming third installment in the Pikmin franchise revealed during the Nintendo press conference at the 2012 Electronic Entertainment Expo on June 5th. It will be released on the Nintendo Wii U console in spring 2013 for Japan, and sometime in quarter two 2013 elsewhere.

Plot

From what has been seen at E3 so far[1], Pikmin 3 revolves around 4 entirely-new characters who come to the Planet of the Pikmin for currently unknown reasons, and explore the depths of the planet after having become lost. None of these characters seem to be related to Olimar nor presumably Louie, who are notably missing, though Olimar was confirmed to indeed appear in the game.[2]

According to Krysta Yang, Public Relations Specialist for Nintendo, more of the story will be revealed as the game comes closer to launch. [3]

The game is planned to be more similar to Pikmin 1 due to the fact that Shigeru Miyamoto intends to add a time limit back to the plot. [4]

Gameplay

Pikmin 3 will give a complete overhaul to the series' battle mechanics; rather than simply throwing pikmin at targets, the player must analyze a target and determine exactly how it should br brought down. For example, some walls will be more easily broken if Pikmin attack them from the top and work their way down, and some enemies my react differently if attack in sensitive areas, such as their eyes. 

Pikmin 3's graphical design will be much more realistic thanks the the enhanced resolution and processing power of the Wii U console, and will also sport a slight exaggeration to character designs. Unlike in the past games, the pikmin will be slightly larger and each one is capable of moving individually, making them stand out more and making them seem more "alive".

Basic Gameplay will retain most of its recognizable features from past games; the game revolves around the player controlling an army of up to 100 various pikmin, which can be directed to preform a variety of tasks to harvest salvagables. In addition to these, a new action can now be preformed by captains, which will cause them and their pikmin swarm to quickly drop and roll side-to-side, which can be used to quickly move out of the way of a stampeding creature.

File:Gamepad.jpg
The Wii U gamepad as the map screen.

Controls

Wii Remote Plus+Nunchuck

While the controls may seem like the "New play control" scheme, there are actually a few notable differences. The ability to "barrel roll" with the D-pad has been added, along with the ability to scan with the Z button. Cycling through your Pikmin types while holding one has been changed to the C button, and disbanding your Pikmin has been changed to shaking the nunchuck.

(These controls are only from the E3 demo and because of such they are subject to change upon final release)

Wii U Gamepad

The Wii U Gamepad can also be used to play Pikmin 3. With the Gamepad, the player can use the analog sticks to move the captains and the X,Y,A, and B buttons to perform a number of different tasks, such as throwing and dismissing Pikmin, and switching and calling leaders as well as different Pikmin types. The Wii U Gamepad's screen displays an overhead map, and the Gamepad itself can be tilted to aim the cursors and whistle thanks to the gyroscope and accelerometer. Scanned enemies will also have their locations marked on the map.

New Pikmin

Currently, 2 new Pikmin types have been seen:

According to a woman at the E3 show floor, there will be additional Pikmin that will be discussed at a later date.[5]

Krysta Yang, Public Relations Specialist for Nintendo, has also stated in an interview that there will "definitely be more pikmin" than the Rock Pikmin. [6]

It could very well be a possibility that Orange, Green, and Cyan Pikmin may appear in the game also. Mainly because Rock and Pink appeared even though Black and Pink Onions appeared in the ending of Pikmin 1. The appearences of Orange, Green and Cyan can be assumed because Onions of those colors appeared as well.

Nintendo E3 Presentation

Pikmin 3 was the very first game Nintendo presented at E3 on June 5th, 2012.

File:Wii U - Pikmin 3 E3 Trailer
Pikmin 3 E3 Trailer.
File:Pikmin 3 - E3 2012 Gameplay Presentation & Trailer HD
Pikmin 3 Demonstration


  • P3.jpg

    The Pikmin 3 logo

  • Pikmin3Captains.jpg

    Captains throwing eachother to get around an obstacle.

  • Pikmin 3 characters.png

    The 4 new characters in Pikmin 3. Olimar and Louie will not be playable in the game for currently-unknown reasons. Although Olimar will indeed appear, [7] it is unknown why he is not playable.

  • Relaxing pikmin.jpg

    The three original Pikmin in HD.

Production

The concept of Pikmin 3 first began in early 2006, and actual production of the game began in mid-2007. Miyamoto stated he was working with "a very, very, small team" and began experimenting with the DS, 3DS, and Wii consoles. Eventually, they settled on Wii, and began working on Pikmin 3. Miyamoto stated that they ran into many graphical and technical issues on the Wii version of the game.

On June 6, 2011, Pikmin 3 was annouced to be moved to the Wii U. On June 5th, 2012, the game was finally revealed to the public at E3, during Nintendo's presentation. [8]

On August 1st, 2012, The Official Nintendo Magazine released its 85th issue, which contained information on the trial level's map and showed unofficial artwork of Pikmin 3 produced for the issue.

File:Pikmin3 YellowandBluePikmin.png
Unofficial art produced for Official Nintendo Magazine

Release Date

Pikmin 3 was originally planned to be a launch title for the Wii U, but this was later changed to "launch window". In December of 2012, Pikmin was announced to have been delayed again, this time until Q2 of 2013. The game has also been confirmed to be released shortly after the month of March ends in Japan, America, and in the summer for Europe.

File:LaunchTitles
Pikmin 3 is shown at 0:50

Trivia

  • Pikmin 3 is the first game where multi-player is available in the real story. (But this could just be a multiplayer mode)

References

  1. ^ Nintendo All-Access @ 2012 E3
  2. ^ Gameplay E3 Demo Walkthrough
  3. ^ http://www.thegameraccess.com/interviews/wii-u/pikmin-3-breaks-the-long-awaited-return-on-wii-u-interview-pax-prime-2012
  4. ^ http://mynintendonews.com/2013/01/02/miyamoto-says-pikmin-3-will-be-more-like-the-original-pikmin/
  5. ^ Gamerant Pikmin 3 Article
  6. ^ http://www.thegameraccess.com/interviews/wii-u/pikmin-3-breaks-the-long-awaited-return-on-wii-u-interview-pax-prime-2012
  7. ^ www.e3insider.com. Retrieved 7/11/12.
  8. ^ http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/06/07/e3-nintendo-shigeru-miyamoto/


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